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re: Forced vaccination by employers is a real possibility in the next few months…legally?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:44 am to Bass Tiger
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:44 am to Bass Tiger
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legally
Yes it will be legal because you can always find another job
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Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:45 am to Lieutenant Dan
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Just got the email yesterday from HR.
"If you're not vaccinated, get with HR and work through it".
In 2 weeks it's a requirement.
If this is all you have, they're definitely being wishy-washy. Sounds like someone in legal cautioned them from issuing an all-out ORDER. It sounds like they're making it mandatory but they aren't saying it. "Get with HR and work through it"? Yeah, they understand the potential legal liability they will be incurring if they actually FORCE you to take it or risk using your job.
Ask them to put in writing that if you don't take this experimental drug then you will be fired.
Watch them squirm their way through that.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:49 am to MMauler
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I've asked this question in another thread but haven't received an answer -- Has the FDA ever approved a drug for non-Emergency use while simultaneously allowing the drug manufacturers to retain complete immunity from any and all side effects (including death) where they are unable to tell the public what those side effects (long or short term) are? And, is there anyone stupid enough to believe that these manufacturers will not pull these "vaccines" from the market if they are not given and retain complete f*cking immunity? Of course, that's a question that everyone who took the "vaccine" should be asking themselves, i.e., WHY IN THE F*CK DID I TAKE AN EXPERIMENTAL DRUG WITHOUT HAVING THE FIRST F*CKING CLUE OF THE SIDE EFFECTS AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WHERE EVERYONE INVOLVED HAS COMPLETE F*CKING IMMUNITY??? Add to that the fact that the disease itself has a 99.99% survival rate. This isn't like some Anthrax disease where if you don't take SOMETHING you're going to die anyway -- which is what the PREP Act is all about. If my employer requires that I take this experimental drug, I will say, "Sure, as soon as the CEO signs this liability form making the company liable for any side effects (or my death) as a result of my taking this experimental drug. The side effects include blood clotting, heart inflammation, death, or any other health issue that we are currently unaware of, NOW OR IN THE FUTURE."
Someone’s about to be unemployed. Enjoy the $300 a month.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:50 am to MMauler
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Ask them to put in writing that if you don't take this experimental drug then you will be fired.
This is the plan.
F500 company. I just knew they would pull this shite.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:53 am to Bass Tiger
Good time to start some new unions.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:53 am to MMauler
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If my employer requires that I take this experimental drug, I will say, "Sure, as soon as the CEO signs this liability form making the company liable for any side effects (or my death) as a result of my taking this experimental drug. The side effects include blood clotting, heart inflammation, death, or any other health issue that we are currently unaware of, NOW OR IN THE FUTURE."
To which he replies “you’re fired”.
Also, good luck with getting any court to enforce your “waiver” accepting liability for all future medical issues.
Not that your employer would be liable anyways. This post was edited on 8/4/21 at 10:59 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:57 am to loogaroo
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Good time to start some new unions.
I didn’t even think about that. Unions should be at the forefront of this issue in trying to recruit all sorts of workers to join in order to fight any mandate. And this can also serve as a catalyst to get employers to stop issuing mandates.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:00 am to Indefatigable
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Indefatigable
Seriously, stop giving your completely f*cking moronic legal advice. You might be one of the most ignorant motherf*ckers I’ve ever come across on the Internet. Pretty much everything you’ve posted is f*cking garbage.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:03 am to MMauler
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Seriously, stop giving your completely f*cking moronic legal advice. You might be one of the most ignorant motherf*ckers I’ve ever come across on the Internet. Pretty much everything you’ve posted is f*cking garbage.
Sorry that no one is telling you what you want to hear.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:03 am to MMauler
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If my employer requires that I take this experimental drug, I will say, "Sure, as soon as the CEO signs this liability form making the company liable for any side effects (or my death) as a result of my taking this experimental drug. The side effects include blood clotting, heart inflammation, death, or any other health issue that we are currently unaware of, NOW OR IN THE FUTURE."
They will not sign that and will wish you good luck on your job search as they escort you out of the building
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:06 am to Indefatigable
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To which he replies “you’re fired”. Also, good luck with getting any court to enforce your “waiver” of liability for all future medical issues. Not that your employer would be liable anyways.
I don’t know why MMauler likes to post comments like he’s holding all the cards, and that he’s going to put others in their place.
Does he not understand that he’s an employee, with limited rights and ability to make demands?
Employers are holding all the cards right now. The exception is if the population decides to go “scorched earth”, with everyone quitting and staying unemployed, then the employers hands will be tied and they will be begging and pleading for MMauler to come back to work for them.
And this will never happen.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:18 am to Bass Tiger
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This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 1:52 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:21 am to thetempleowl
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This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 2:02 am
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:22 am to Grinder
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Does he not understand that he’s an employee, with limited rights and ability to make demands?
You morons have no idea where I work, what state I work in, whether I’m covered by a collective-bargaining agreement, or any other aspects of my employment and yet you’re going to sit here and give me legal advice about my employment as though you are the definitive authority.
Yeah, I think I’ll refrain from taking the advice of complete f*cking idiots who don't have a f*cking clue.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:24 am to MMauler
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You morons have no idea where I work, what state I work in, whether I’m covered by a collective-bargaining agreement, or any other aspects of my employment and yet you’re going to sit here and give me legal advice about my employment as though you are the definitive authority.
You wouldn’t be bleeding all over the thread if you had a CBA, contract with terms addressing this, or similar situation. You’re losing your mind because you don’t have any of those protections in place.
But for funsies, go ahead and tell us what state you work in.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:24 am to MMauler
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Unions should be at the forefront of this issue in trying to recruit all sorts of workers to join in order to fight any mandate.
Yep. This is a great opportunity!
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:32 am to FooManChoo
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A lot of places are having a hard time filling open positions. Creating more open positions by firing employees won't help.
And all a competitor has to do is say "come on over here" we don't require vacs. Let's make money!!
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:37 am to Indefatigable
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But for funsies,
For funsies......
I don’t give out any personal information on this board. Let’s just say, I’ve been working for the same company for over 20 years and my position is more than secure.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:37 am to FooManChoo
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That may happen, but if enough people refuse the vaccine, it'll bite a lot of those companies hard.
A lot of places are having a hard time filling open positions. Creating more open positions by firing employees won't help.
This is 100% true. Which is why I suspect this is all part of the effort to crush our country and usher in the Great Reset BS.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:38 am to Bass Tiger
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THEY DON’t TRUST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ANY LONGER!
Your employer does. Why don't you just go get s new job or open a company for yourself? Seems easy enough
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