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re: This is CSP biggest year as a head coach
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:45 am to BigBrod81
Posted on 8/16/21 at 9:45 am to BigBrod81
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While Brees did seem to turn the corner in 2004, the rest of your quote is completely false. Brees was up & down. There was nothing great about Brees early on in San Diego which is why he constantly in & out of the line up, being benched for Doug Flutie. Your memory is shite & you have a warped sense of reality.
They also acquired Phillip Rivers in the 1st round because they weren't sold on Drew developing into anything great. It wasn't until they drafted a guy to take his job that the lights came on and he held Rivers on the bench for a little while, before his shoulder injury gave the Chargers an excuse to cut ties and make the switch. It's revisionist history to say Drew was making great progress. If that were the case the Chargers don't draft a QB in the 1st round of the 2004 draft
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 9:46 am
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Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:00 am to BigBrod81
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While Brees did seem to turn the corner in 2004, the rest of your quote is completely false. Brees was up & down. There was nothing great about Brees early on in San Diego which is why he constantly in & out of the line up, being benched for Doug Flutie. Your memory is shite & you have a warped sense of reality.
Which is why I said IN STARK CONTRAST TO HIS FIRST 3 YEARS IN SAN DIEGO, you inbred.
Cherrypick much, Jim-Bob? quote:
showed great progress from the time he entered the league until he became a Saint.
Read as, he was an entirely different player from the time he was drafted when he came to the Saints in 2006. There was noted growth in his game from the time he entered the league (2001) until he became a Saint (2006). Seeing as he was in and out of the lineup, to starting the majority of the games for 2 consecutive seasons in 2004 and 2005 and performing at a high clip.
Stop playing spin doctor and reply to what I said, not what your blowhard arse wants me to say. I know I shite on your boy Jameis and that personally offends you, but get over it.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 10:06 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:09 am to Northshore Saint
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It's revisionist history to say Drew was making great progress. If that were the case the Chargers don't draft a QB in the 1st round of the 2004 draft
The Chargers were widely panned as the league's worst front office at the time, with noted mismanagement of players. This is a non-point.
But this just in: the QB with the league's 3rd best passer rating in 2004 and 10th best in 2005 wasn't making great progress in his performance from the time he was drafted. Go back and ready what I posted again, as slowly as you need to.
Dude went from being on again/off again (from when he was drafted in 2001 to 2003) to a full time starter and one of the more efficient QBs in football (2004 and 2005). He made progress from the time he was drafted. This is not an argument. Brees showed progress in his career by the time he landed here and was not the same player he was when he was drafted. Winston is the exact same player, if not worse.
Reply to my post in its full context or not at all.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 10:16 am
Posted on 8/16/21 at 10:43 am to nicholastiger
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I’m worried Dallas may make a trade for him when McCarthy crashes and burns this year
Would be perfect fit for dak
Payton to Dallas is literally going on 10 years now
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:09 am to VictoryHill
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The Chargers were widely panned as the league's worst front office at the time, with noted mismanagement of players. This is a non-point.
Lol Wut?! GM AJ Smith was a cheap bastard who allowed some talented free agents to walk away from the Chargers organization but to say the Chargers had the worst front office in the league is absolute foolishness. Smith was cheap when it came to keeping in house players but the man had an unbelievable eye for young talent. The Chargers drafted a ridiculous amount of talent under Smith.
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Reply to my post in its full context or not at all.
Nobody has time to address all of your shitposting.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:11 am to Northshore Saint
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They also acquired Phillip Rivers in the 1st round because they weren't sold on Drew developing into anything great. It wasn't until they drafted a guy to take his job that the lights came on and he held Rivers on the bench for a little while, before his shoulder injury gave the Chargers an excuse to cut ties and make the switch. It's revisionist history to say Drew was making great progress. If that were the case the Chargers don't draft a QB in the 1st round of the 2004 draft
Posted on 8/16/21 at 11:14 am to VictoryHill
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Stop playing spin doctor and reply to what I said, not what your blowhard arse wants me to say. I know I shite on your boy Jameis and that personally offends you, but get over it.
Melt bitch
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:15 pm to VictoryHill
•Calls Eli Manning's bluff, drafting him after Eli said he would not play for the Chargers. He then traded Eli for QB Philip Rivers, the Giants 05 1st Round Pick (OLB Shawne Merriman) and3rd Round Pick (Nate Kaeding) All three of which have mad a Pro Bowl appearance.
•Signed undrafted TE Antonio Gates. (Gates has been the Chargers primary receiving threat since 2004 and is widely regraded as the best TE in the game
•Allowed QB Drew Brees to leave as a Free Agent
•04 Draft 3 Pro Bowlers (Kaeding and Rivers) and C Nick Hardwick.
•Also drafted defensive stand outs LB Shaun Phillips (31 sacks in 4 years) and DE Igor Olshansky who is a great 3-4 DE05 Draft Shawne Merriman, DE Luis Castillo, WR Vincent Jackson, RB Darren Sproles all of whom have contributed largely to the Chargers 46-18 record in the last 4 years
•Signed undrafted TE Antonio Gates. (Gates has been the Chargers primary receiving threat since 2004 and is widely regraded as the best TE in the game
•Allowed QB Drew Brees to leave as a Free Agent
•04 Draft 3 Pro Bowlers (Kaeding and Rivers) and C Nick Hardwick.
•Also drafted defensive stand outs LB Shaun Phillips (31 sacks in 4 years) and DE Igor Olshansky who is a great 3-4 DE05 Draft Shawne Merriman, DE Luis Castillo, WR Vincent Jackson, RB Darren Sproles all of whom have contributed largely to the Chargers 46-18 record in the last 4 years
Posted on 8/16/21 at 12:53 pm to Chalkywhite84
And don't forget drafting RB Micheal Turner in the 5th round of the 2004 Draft. Future 2x Pro Bowler (2008,2010), one first team All Pro (2008) & second team All Pro (2010)
As well as HOF LaDainian Tomlinson in the 2001 Draft while Smith was Director of Pro Personnel/Assistant GM. LT 2006 NFL MVP & NFL Offensive Player of the Year, 3x first team All Pro, 3x second team All Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, 2x NFL rushing leader & 3x NFL rushing TD leader.
Also, Smith signed Lorenzo Neal as a FA in 2003. Neal ended being a Pro Bowler at FB in 05, 06 & 07. First team All Pro in 06 & 07.
He drafted Antonio Cromartie in 2006. Cromartie was a Pro Bowler & first team All Pro for them in 2007.
Drafted Eric Weddle in the 2007 Draft in the 2nd round. Waddle turned into a 6x Pro Bowler & 2x first team All Pro.
Drafted Ryan Matthews in 2010 who made the Pro Bowl in his second season with the Chargers.
But yeah, that front office was shite.
As well as HOF LaDainian Tomlinson in the 2001 Draft while Smith was Director of Pro Personnel/Assistant GM.
LT 2006 NFL MVP & NFL Offensive Player of the Year, 3x first team All Pro, 3x second team All Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, 2x NFL rushing leader & 3x NFL rushing TD leader. Also, Smith signed Lorenzo Neal as a FA in 2003. Neal ended being a Pro Bowler at FB in 05, 06 & 07. First team All Pro in 06 & 07.
He drafted Antonio Cromartie in 2006. Cromartie was a Pro Bowler & first team All Pro for them in 2007.
Drafted Eric Weddle in the 2007 Draft in the 2nd round. Waddle turned into a 6x Pro Bowler & 2x first team All Pro.
Drafted Ryan Matthews in 2010 who made the Pro Bowl in his second season with the Chargers.
But yeah, that front office was shite.
This post was edited on 8/16/21 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 8/16/21 at 1:13 pm to BigBrod81
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This is CSP biggest year as a head coach
Don't see that but it is a year he can further cement his legacy as a top coach in the NFL.
What can he do with a top O-line.
Does he retool with what he has or does he try to hammer square pegs in round holes.
What can he do with JW.
After 2021 how are the Saints set up for success.
The biggest question is can the coach and QB guru work magic with JW. If he does he is set for the rest of his life in coaching. He will have no shortages in offers or QB's wanting to play for him.
Posted on 8/16/21 at 3:46 pm to BayouRat15
2006 was his biggest year
Posted on 8/16/21 at 3:48 pm to Billy Mays
I rather go 3 -14 than 7-10. Draft howell
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