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Doe management opinions
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:33 am
Seeing what seems to be a lot more does than normal this year. When I say this, I’m talking 10-20 does per hunt with a single spike or 4 or 5 point mixed in every couple of days.
Edit: I did shoot a decent 9 point Monday of this week, that walked in behind a group of probably 5 does.
With that said, when is the “right” time to shoot your does?
My opinion is keep them around until the rut. Guy at my work says start popping them now, because does carry the majority of your genetics. Not sure how that logic adds up, but whatever. I asked how I judge which does have good genetics and he said “if they have 2 fawns with them”. Again, I’m seeing anywhere from 5-10 nanny’s and 5-10 fawns per hunt and don’t know who’s is who’s, so I couldn’t do that if I tried.
So again, when is the “right” time to shoot your does?
Edit: I did shoot a decent 9 point Monday of this week, that walked in behind a group of probably 5 does.
With that said, when is the “right” time to shoot your does?
My opinion is keep them around until the rut. Guy at my work says start popping them now, because does carry the majority of your genetics. Not sure how that logic adds up, but whatever. I asked how I judge which does have good genetics and he said “if they have 2 fawns with them”. Again, I’m seeing anywhere from 5-10 nanny’s and 5-10 fawns per hunt and don’t know who’s is who’s, so I couldn’t do that if I tried.
So again, when is the “right” time to shoot your does?
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 8:35 am
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Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:34 am to LSUTigahss
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when is the “right” time to shoot your does?
Yes
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:35 am to LSUTigahss
quote:1st world problems
I’m talking 10-20 does per hunt
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:36 am to Tiger Prawn
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I’m talking 10-20 does per hunt 1st world problems
I’m aware. This situation is very new to me. 5-10 years ago me and my father could go weeks without even seeing a deer.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 8:37 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:38 am to LSUTigahss
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I’m talking 10-20 does per hunt with a single spike or 4 or 5 point mixed in every couple of days.
First of all, most guys here, myself included, would be over the moon at this type of action.
Are the small bucks starting to chase some of the does? If not, they’re still herded up. You can take a few does and not harm the herd. Once the rut starts, I leave the does alone. There’s not a better bait in the woods than pussy.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:42 am to LSUTigahss
I’ll start by saying I hunt public land, so take what I say with a grain of salt
My opinion is if you’re shooting does for herd management, do it early season. Reason being, it’s less mouths to feed later in the year. The pregnant does need all the nutrition they can get for their fawns. And more available food will help the bucks during the off-season and new antler growth
My opinion is if you’re shooting does for herd management, do it early season. Reason being, it’s less mouths to feed later in the year. The pregnant does need all the nutrition they can get for their fawns. And more available food will help the bucks during the off-season and new antler growth
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:43 am to 9Fiddy
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First of all, most guys here, myself included, would be over the moon at this type of action.
I hope this doesn’t come off sounding ungrateful. I’m very grateful for what we have now, because I can very recently remember seeing less than 10 deer in a season.
No it doesn’t seem like the young bucks are chasing does at all. They’re all about corn right now. I follow your line of thought as far as keeping the does around until the rut for the attraction of bucks. It seems backwards to me to even kill a few does until after the rut. Not hurting for meat. Just trying to figure out the right approach to herd management
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:48 am to LSUTigahss
If you aren’t meat hunting and getting the one or two in the freezer early, the do what JPB said. Less mouths eating = more nutrition per deer. I’ve never done it post rut because I just don’t like the idea of having to butcher a pregnant deer. Personal choice.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 8:49 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:53 am to LSUTigahss
I have a group of 12 that comes to me feeder twice daily sometimes 3-4 times, with corn at $10.00 a sack I'm tired of feeding them.
I'm about to go all natural and stop feeding
I'm about to go all natural and stop feeding
Posted on 10/30/21 at 9:04 am to LSUTigahss
Shoot them when you have a high percentage shot and you can tell for sure they are a doe.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 9:06 am to The Torch
It does not affect the deer population if you kill a doe now or in January.
You can not tell genetics of antlers by looking at a doe. Although the doe does contribute the genes to her offsprings antlers as much or maybe more (52%) than the buck does.
Shooting a doe early lessens the deer pressure on the food supply. So shooting early has the advantage of being a positive for the remaining deer.
Older does aren't always the bigger deer. But bigger does have more meat. So shoot a big one.
Infertility is rare with deer so the barren doe is not really true. Predation or malnutrition or disease is usually the cause of a doe that doesn't have youngsters.
If my memory serves me right the youngest and oldest does have the most male offspring.
You can not tell genetics of antlers by looking at a doe. Although the doe does contribute the genes to her offsprings antlers as much or maybe more (52%) than the buck does.
Shooting a doe early lessens the deer pressure on the food supply. So shooting early has the advantage of being a positive for the remaining deer.
Older does aren't always the bigger deer. But bigger does have more meat. So shoot a big one.
Infertility is rare with deer so the barren doe is not really true. Predation or malnutrition or disease is usually the cause of a doe that doesn't have youngsters.
If my memory serves me right the youngest and oldest does have the most male offspring.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 9:08 am to LSUTigahss
Invite friends and kill 25/30 does. Food supply and deer quality will improve
Posted on 10/30/21 at 9:26 am to LSUTigahss
I’m in the same boat with the does. When I hunted in mississippi, I might go weeks without seeing a deer. Now I don’t even look away from my phone when the herd comes through. My 7 year old is already bored with watching does which kinda aggravates me. Meanwhile we blast year old 130lb 5pts cause “that’s the rules.” I wish we would skip bucks one season and go scorched earth on does but old timers won’t have it.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 9:42 am to The Torch
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I have a group of 12 that comes to me feeder twice daily sometimes 3-4 times, with corn at $10.00 a sack I'm tired of feeding them
They put a hurting on the corn that’s for sure. I’m talking 50 lbs wiped nearly clean in 24 hours
Posted on 10/30/21 at 10:02 am to LSUTigahss
What i would do is, peg down my pre rut dates ( a time when bucks are fired up but no does are ready ) . Then, if you have little to no scraping going on, and it stays that way into full rut, then you have too many does.
Sudden, overnight increase in scraping, like someone turned on a switch, indicates pre rut.
Sudden, overnight increase in scraping, like someone turned on a switch, indicates pre rut.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 10:23 am to LSUTigahss
I like to shoot mine around 7:30 am so I can be back at the truck when the coffee hits.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 10:53 am to 257WBY
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Shoot them when you have a high percentage shot and you can tell for sure they are a doe.
I agree with this. The best time to shoot a doe is when you have an opportunity. I can’t tell you how many years we would wait to shoot does and then you only see spikes.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 11:03 am to LSUTigahss
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I asked how I judge which does have good genetics and he said “if they have 2 fawns with them”.
You aren’t going to change genetics. Bucks get big with age and nutrition. You can control age by not shooting smaller bucks. Reducing total deer on the landscape and improving habitat will help with nutrition availability.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 12:02 pm to LSUTigahss
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They put a hurting on the corn that’s for sure. I’m talking 50 lbs wiped nearly clean in 24 hours
Timers can fix that.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 12:45 pm to omegaman66
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Timers can fix that
My timers right now have lacrosse boots on them.
Have feeders out, but also scatter by hand to get it to some spots that feeders aren’t possible and it’s been my experience that the bigger bucks don’t like eating corn under a feeder. They seem to like to hangout in the thick stuff and eat
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