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A Question About Bay Leaves

Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:25 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:25 am
I've been told since i was a kid that whole bay leaves were not safe to eat. Ground up bay leaves were safe but, whole bay leaves do not digest, are extremely sharp and can damage intestines.

What is the F&D Board consensus on this?
Posted by Lambdatiger1989
NOLA
Member since Jan 2012
2387 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:29 am to
“Dat’s what my Maw Maw said”.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43033 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:30 am to
why would you want to eat a bay leaf?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:34 am to
You’re asking for the consensus on whether an old wives’ tale is true or not?

Spoiler alert, but no, this old wives’ tale is not true.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
70923 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:40 am to
quote:

an old wives’ tale


is it though?

I'm asking here because there are a lot of cooks here. Most cooks I know say they aren't safe to eat.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
70923 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:42 am to
quote:

why would you want to eat a bay leaf?


i don't.

But Saturday 2 of us were served roast beef po-boys with whole bay leaves on them. I know they are used for cooking but, i've always been told to remove them after cooking.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:00 am to
quote:

is it though?


Bro, come on.

quote:

I'm asking here because there are a lot of cooks here. Most cooks I know say they aren't safe to eat.



What is it about being a cook that would necessarily give someone special insight into whether a bay leaf is safe to eat?

Look, I suppose there is a chance that you could choke on one, so that would make it "unsafe" to eat. It's also probably not going to taste very good.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:02 am to
Another spoiler alert:


Gum doesn't stay in your body for "X" number of years either.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
74889 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:04 am to
In rare instances they've caused an issue with choking.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28327 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:12 am to
quote:

You’re asking for the consensus on whether an old wives’ tale is true or not?


There is actually some truth to this:

quote:

To the Editor.— We have recently encountered two patients with complications caused by the stem of a bay leaf (Laurus nobilis).

Report of Cases.—Case 1.— A 45-year-old woman was admitted with a two-day history of cramping abdominal pain that had localized to the lower abdomen toward the right side. The abdomen was diffusely tender with guarding throughout, most severe in the right lower quadrant and accompanied by rebound tenderness. Bowel sounds were diminished. The leukocyte count was 8,000/cu mm, with a pronounced left shift. A presumptive diagnosis of acute appendicitis was made. At laparotomy, the appendix showed signs of periappendicitis but was otherwise normal. Thorough exploration disclosed Meckel's diverticulum about 75 cm from the ileocecal valve surrounded by a well-confirmed purulent collection. A green foreign body protruded through the wall of the diverticulum. Excision of the diverticulum and incidental appendectomy were accomplished without difficulty. Pathological examination of the


Source

And another journal - PDF
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 8:13 am
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:19 am to
The first case was one where it got stuck in an appendix (which can happen with other foods). The second case was one where it was stuck in the guy's throat.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28327 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:24 am to
I'm not saying the risk is high, but I know personally that I'd never eat something that big doesn't break down after eight hours of cooking Those sons of bitches are just as stiff after simmering all day as the 2x4 that hit ol' boy's head.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:31 am to
Oh yeah, no doubt. I wouldn't either.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14107 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:46 am to
All I know is that I was shocked by how much I disliked the flavor imparted using fresh bay leaves vs dried. Yuck. Maybe I need to try again?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
17819 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:52 am to
quote:

But Saturday 2 of us were served roast beef po-boys with whole bay leaves on them.



Care to share what place has idiots making their sandwiches that would put whole bay leaves on a po-boy???

I have a bay leaf tree in my garden and I cook most everything I eat with bay leaves with the exception of breakfast. I NEVER eat the leaves and will pull them out the pot when the cooking is done and discard.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
32865 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:55 am to
quote:

I've been told since i was a kid that whole bay leaves were not safe to eat. Ground up bay leaves were safe but, whole bay leaves do not digest, are extremely sharp and can damage intestines.

What is the F&D Board consensus on this?



I imagine this would be true if you ate any dried whole leaf.
Posted by tewino
Member since Aug 2009
2428 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:19 am to
quote:

I have a bay leaf tree in my garden


So do I. Do you cook with fresh bay leaves or do you dry them first. My tree is very productive but not a lot of flavor from the leaves- some mild subtle flavor but not very potent.

I've compared to some older dried bay leaves from the spice isle but they were likely old and not very flavorful either. Maybe it's just me but it's almost like a useless spice.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 9:21 am
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14538 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:21 am to
We have a Bay Laurel tree in a pot. I like to take the bottom (older) leaves, dry them and grind them in the spice mill. I keep the powdered bay leaf in a spice jar. I believe the powdered bay leaf works better. Usually, a 1/8 teaspoon of my powder works as well as a large leaf.

Would I eat a leaf? No. Forget causing bodily harm. IMO, the taste would be too strong for whatever I was eating.

This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 9:23 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
70923 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Care to share what place has idiots making their sandwiches that would put whole bay leaves on a po-boy???


sure. Pretty sure it's on the list of board favorites.

Our Mom's Lee at Burbank.

When we brought it to their attention the young lady left, came back and said "we looked it up, it's safe".

Seems like if you're running a restaurant, you shouldn't have to "look it up". Especially AFTER serving it to customers.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 9:31 am to
quote:

When we brought it to their attention the young lady left, came back and said "we looked it up, it's safe".


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