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Cooking Ribs on Big Green Egg
Posted on 7/2/14 at 6:10 am
Posted on 7/2/14 at 6:10 am
Good morning. I am new to this board but seeking advice from the BGE pros. I am two cooks in on my new Lg BGE and I just can't get my ribs to that "fall off the bone, smoke-ring" level that I have seen from more seasoned users. Any advice?
I smoke them at 225 for 3 hours using the place setter accessory and then wrap them in tin foil for another hour with honey and brown sugar. When they come off the grill they look good and taste ok, but the meat appears overlooked or "white'ish". Also, I put 4-5 soaked wood chunks in just prior to cooking and not sure that's the right thing to do. Not enough smoke.
Any help is appreciated. Go easy on a newbie.
I smoke them at 225 for 3 hours using the place setter accessory and then wrap them in tin foil for another hour with honey and brown sugar. When they come off the grill they look good and taste ok, but the meat appears overlooked or "white'ish". Also, I put 4-5 soaked wood chunks in just prior to cooking and not sure that's the right thing to do. Not enough smoke.
Any help is appreciated. Go easy on a newbie.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 6:23 am to BHMTigah
250 for 2.5-3 hours. I use dry pecan. Once the meat pulls off the ribs you can ramp your heat up to 400 to give them more color if necessary. Quit wrapping them. The egg retains plenty of moisture to keep them from drying out. Sauce them at the end or serve it on the side.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 6:26 am to Trout Bandit
Is the look and texture I referenced in my original post because they are getting over cooked or under? The meat was cooked last time but did not pull off the bone.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 6:28 am to BHMTigah
Posted on 7/2/14 at 6:41 am to BHMTigah
You need to cook a little hotter with more smoke. Don't soak the chunks.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 6:46 am to webstew
Honey may cause the barking.
I rub stone ground mustard, salt, brown sugar, and rub and throw my on at 225 for 5 hours. Also, are you removing the membrane on the back of the ribs?
I use combination of peach, pecan, apple chunks with diffuser plate. Place a pan of water directly under the ribs on the plate.
I rub stone ground mustard, salt, brown sugar, and rub and throw my on at 225 for 5 hours. Also, are you removing the membrane on the back of the ribs?
I use combination of peach, pecan, apple chunks with diffuser plate. Place a pan of water directly under the ribs on the plate.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 6:56 am to WildcatMike
We did some on the infrared charbroil over the weekend.
They were done in an hour. I wasn't convinced until I tried them. Made me think of this board.
They were absolutely delicious, and had a perfect texture.
They were done in an hour. I wasn't convinced until I tried them. Made me think of this board.

Posted on 7/2/14 at 7:23 am to WildcatMike
I did remove the membrane prior to cooking. Just not sure if I am over or under cooking based on how the ribs looked. I wonder if I go longer if they will pull away from the bone more or less?
Posted on 7/2/14 at 7:31 am to BRgetthenet
The smoke ring does not add taste. It is a looks only thing. It's all kind of a mystery how it best develops, but the scientist who works with Amazing ribs has done some work on it and has some tips on conditions for getting a smoke ring.
As for fall off the bone texture, many (especially competition) frown on that as overdone. They want a bite to lightly pull the meat away from the bone. That said, many folks like fall off the bone, so I have done it that way depending on the crowd.
Here are some time/temp/foil approaches I assembled from a bunch of books and online sources. Some are for babybacks, which take less time, so note that.
Meathead at Amazing Ribs says 225 (in his babyback recipe): "It's a magic temp that creates silky texture, adds moisture, and keeps the meat tender. If you can't hit 225°F, get as close as you can. Don't go under 200°F and try not to go over 250°F." As for foiling: "Almost all competition cooks use the crutch to get an edge. But the improvement is really minimal and I never bother for backyard cooking." And: "On the rare occasion that I crutch ribs, I crutch for only 30 minutes. Push ribs much beyond 30 minutes and you risk overcooking the meat and turning it mushy."
Harry Soo says 275: "275 degrees renders the fat better and faster. Faster is good so the rib does not dry out. Also, bark forms better at 275 degrees on ribs." Harry also spritzes every 15 minutes after the bark forms a couple hours in. After 2 hours, he foils for 1.5 hours. Link
Aaron Franklin says 275 in his video series. He sauces and spritzes after a couple hours. Then he foils with spritz and sauce for a couple more hours. Unwrap to test for readiness. When done, rest 20 or 30 minutes loosely wrapped in the foil. Link
Myron Mixon's book: 275 and spritz (apple juice, vinegar, imitation butter) every 15 minutes after the first 45 minutes of cooking. He says to start the ribs in a foil pan and then, after 3 hours, foil with apple juice for 2 hours. He then kills the fire, sauces, refoils, and lets rest one hour inside the cooling smoker.
Chris Lilly's Big Bob Gibson book: 250 for about 4 hours. Sauce and return to 250 for 20 minutes.
Gary Wiviott's Low and Slow: He keeps it simple for beginners by not giving temps, just vent settings. Spritz with tart wash (cranberry juice, olive oil, rub) 4 hours in. Check for readiness at 4.5 hours. Spritz and repeat every 30 minutes if they need to keep cooking. No foil involved.
Smoke & Spice: Has several rib recipes that call for smoking at 200 to 220. They say mopping/basting on a water smoker is not necessary, but they do it for flavor every hour or two, or if lid is off for another reason. See page 49, "To Mop or Not".
As for fall off the bone texture, many (especially competition) frown on that as overdone. They want a bite to lightly pull the meat away from the bone. That said, many folks like fall off the bone, so I have done it that way depending on the crowd.
Here are some time/temp/foil approaches I assembled from a bunch of books and online sources. Some are for babybacks, which take less time, so note that.
Meathead at Amazing Ribs says 225 (in his babyback recipe): "It's a magic temp that creates silky texture, adds moisture, and keeps the meat tender. If you can't hit 225°F, get as close as you can. Don't go under 200°F and try not to go over 250°F." As for foiling: "Almost all competition cooks use the crutch to get an edge. But the improvement is really minimal and I never bother for backyard cooking." And: "On the rare occasion that I crutch ribs, I crutch for only 30 minutes. Push ribs much beyond 30 minutes and you risk overcooking the meat and turning it mushy."
Harry Soo says 275: "275 degrees renders the fat better and faster. Faster is good so the rib does not dry out. Also, bark forms better at 275 degrees on ribs." Harry also spritzes every 15 minutes after the bark forms a couple hours in. After 2 hours, he foils for 1.5 hours. Link
Aaron Franklin says 275 in his video series. He sauces and spritzes after a couple hours. Then he foils with spritz and sauce for a couple more hours. Unwrap to test for readiness. When done, rest 20 or 30 minutes loosely wrapped in the foil. Link
Myron Mixon's book: 275 and spritz (apple juice, vinegar, imitation butter) every 15 minutes after the first 45 minutes of cooking. He says to start the ribs in a foil pan and then, after 3 hours, foil with apple juice for 2 hours. He then kills the fire, sauces, refoils, and lets rest one hour inside the cooling smoker.
Chris Lilly's Big Bob Gibson book: 250 for about 4 hours. Sauce and return to 250 for 20 minutes.
Gary Wiviott's Low and Slow: He keeps it simple for beginners by not giving temps, just vent settings. Spritz with tart wash (cranberry juice, olive oil, rub) 4 hours in. Check for readiness at 4.5 hours. Spritz and repeat every 30 minutes if they need to keep cooking. No foil involved.
Smoke & Spice: Has several rib recipes that call for smoking at 200 to 220. They say mopping/basting on a water smoker is not necessary, but they do it for flavor every hour or two, or if lid is off for another reason. See page 49, "To Mop or Not".
Posted on 7/2/14 at 7:33 am to BHMTigah
Usually cooking longer will lead to the fall-off-the-bone texture that you're looking for. Some say that is overcooking them but I prefer them that way
Posted on 7/2/14 at 8:43 am to BHMTigah
Try the ribs in the link. In the pictures (can click to enlarge) the guy is using an 18" WSM. I use a 22.5 and rib racks and usually do six racks of spare ribs. I do a 2.5 (unfoil) - 2.5 (foil)- 1 (unfoil) cooking method to make them really tender and fall off the bone. I have to do the last hour with the ribs sitting on the foil I don't tear away. They become too tender to grab and move. I've wound up standing by the smoker with three bones in each hand after trying to move them while taking the foil off. I also don't do the fire like him - I load the cooking section with ribs and the Maverick thermometer wire and once I dump the chimney starter I put the smoker together with the vents open to bring it to 225 degrees.
I make the rub in the full batch (towards the bottom of the page) and fill up every container I can find around the house. It makes it a lot easier for the next few rib smokes.
If you try this recipe - REMEMBER to put the sauce on the ribs before eating and it is better if the ribs are still hot. When you put the BBQ sauce mixed with honey all the flavors congeal to make one very awesome product.
Best ribs in the universe
I make the rub in the full batch (towards the bottom of the page) and fill up every container I can find around the house. It makes it a lot easier for the next few rib smokes.
If you try this recipe - REMEMBER to put the sauce on the ribs before eating and it is better if the ribs are still hot. When you put the BBQ sauce mixed with honey all the flavors congeal to make one very awesome product.
Best ribs in the universe
Posted on 7/2/14 at 8:59 am to Tiger Ree
Smoke ring will develop with a temp differential....if the meat is well-chilled when it goes onto the egg, you'll get a nice pink ring.
For pork ribs, I remove the membrane, rub w/mustard, coat liberally w/dry rub (which must include a bit of sugar, imho), then refrigerate overnight. The next day, put the cold ribs onto the egg and cook indirect for 1.5 hrs at 275-325 degrees (using a drip pan atop the plate setter). Take off, wrap in foil, and add a little liquid (apple juice, cola, cider, beer, whatever you like) and put 'em back on the egg for another 1.5 hrs. When you can stick a toothpick easily into the ribs, they're done. Take out of the foil, brush with a light coat of sauce, and bump the temp up a bit. Cook for about 10 mins to glaze.
This method yields an ultra-tender, fall off the bone rib. It's less chewy and more melting/soft than some folks like (due to the foiling, which steams the meat). But I never have any leftovers, and the ribs reheat better than a lower/slower cooked rib.
For pork ribs, I remove the membrane, rub w/mustard, coat liberally w/dry rub (which must include a bit of sugar, imho), then refrigerate overnight. The next day, put the cold ribs onto the egg and cook indirect for 1.5 hrs at 275-325 degrees (using a drip pan atop the plate setter). Take off, wrap in foil, and add a little liquid (apple juice, cola, cider, beer, whatever you like) and put 'em back on the egg for another 1.5 hrs. When you can stick a toothpick easily into the ribs, they're done. Take out of the foil, brush with a light coat of sauce, and bump the temp up a bit. Cook for about 10 mins to glaze.
This method yields an ultra-tender, fall off the bone rib. It's less chewy and more melting/soft than some folks like (due to the foiling, which steams the meat). But I never have any leftovers, and the ribs reheat better than a lower/slower cooked rib.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:14 am to BHMTigah
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You need to cook a little hotter with more smoke. Don't soak the chunks.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 9:29 am to Tiger Ree
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I do a 2.5 (unfoil) - 2.5 (foil)- 1 (unfoil) cooking method to make them really tender and fall off the bone.
Not trying to be a dick but that sounds like a bunch of mushy shite to me. Is this with spareribs, babybacks or St. Louis cut??
Posted on 7/2/14 at 1:23 pm to Trout Bandit
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Is this with spareribs, babybacks or St. Louis cut??
Spare ribs
Posted on 7/2/14 at 2:04 pm to hungryone
This is practically what I am doing, but need to bump the temp. If I can push the cooking time longer it may get them where I want which is closer to competition than a pile of meat and no bones. Thanks for the help everyone. Please keep the suggestions coming.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:33 pm to BHMTigah
Lots of good advice already but I'll throw my "method" out there:
Take ribs from freezer.
Remove membrane (not sure why other than Franklin does it)
Light coat of olive oil to get the rub to stick
Apply rub (I'm using Sweet Rub O' Mine and brown sugar)
Get the BGE going (clean burn at about 300 degF).
Throw in dry pecan chunks (or wood of choice)
Position plate setter (feet up)
Place grill on plate setter
(from lighting the BGE 'til now usually takes about 20 min; this allows the rub to 'melt' and the ribs to thaw some before going on)
Place ribs on grill meat side up
This usually drops the temp down from 300 degF to 225 degF (my target)
Monitor temps and adjust vents if/as required to maintain temp at 215-235 degF
If baby backs or St Louis cut then smoke for about 2 to 2.5 hours. If spare, smoke for 3 hours.
Prepare tin foil for wrapping ribs.
Spritz tin foil, remove ribs from BGE, and spritz ribs (I use apple juice)
Wrap ribs snug in tin foil and place back on the BGE for 2 hours (meat side up but not sure this matters at this point).
Remove ribs from foil and allow to smoke for 1/2 to 1 hour (depending on type).
This has worked well for me on a large BGE for multiple occasions.
Best wishes and let us know how your next attempt goes.
Take ribs from freezer.
Remove membrane (not sure why other than Franklin does it)
Light coat of olive oil to get the rub to stick
Apply rub (I'm using Sweet Rub O' Mine and brown sugar)
Get the BGE going (clean burn at about 300 degF).
Throw in dry pecan chunks (or wood of choice)
Position plate setter (feet up)
Place grill on plate setter
(from lighting the BGE 'til now usually takes about 20 min; this allows the rub to 'melt' and the ribs to thaw some before going on)
Place ribs on grill meat side up
This usually drops the temp down from 300 degF to 225 degF (my target)
Monitor temps and adjust vents if/as required to maintain temp at 215-235 degF
If baby backs or St Louis cut then smoke for about 2 to 2.5 hours. If spare, smoke for 3 hours.
Prepare tin foil for wrapping ribs.
Spritz tin foil, remove ribs from BGE, and spritz ribs (I use apple juice)
Wrap ribs snug in tin foil and place back on the BGE for 2 hours (meat side up but not sure this matters at this point).
Remove ribs from foil and allow to smoke for 1/2 to 1 hour (depending on type).
This has worked well for me on a large BGE for multiple occasions.
Best wishes and let us know how your next attempt goes.
Posted on 7/2/14 at 10:53 pm to AlwysATgr
I will post results this weekend. Probably smoke a rack or two Friday or Saturday. Do multiple racks require more cooking time?
Posted on 7/2/14 at 11:23 pm to BHMTigah
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Do multiple racks require more cooking time?
IMO, no - unless it becomes so 'crowded' as to affect air flow. Time is a function of temp and thickness, i.e., type of rib.
Posted on 7/3/14 at 4:50 am to BHMTigah
I heard from a guy on egg head that he parboils for 10 minutes with crab boil then cooks the ribs.
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