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Difference between regular and Creole Tomatoes?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:12 pm
I'll hang up and listen.
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:16 pm to mpar98
real creoles are grown in nutrient rich soil in the river parishes. but LSU developed something that grows down here and called it "creole" so now everyone thinks they are growing creole tomoatos
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:17 pm to mpar98
nothing
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:28 pm to mpar98
There used to be a distinct flavor to Creoles, but I have yet to taste a "Creole" tomato since before Katrina with that distinctive flavor. Saddens me.
About 3 weeks or so before K, I'd found a farm in St Bernard which shipped Creole tomatoes. I order two cases at varying degrees of ripeness, most were green so they would ripen over time and so on. They were DELICIOUS. Haven't had that flavor since.
About 3 weeks or so before K, I'd found a farm in St Bernard which shipped Creole tomatoes. I order two cases at varying degrees of ripeness, most were green so they would ripen over time and so on. They were DELICIOUS. Haven't had that flavor since.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:30 pm to J Murdah
The term Creole is applied to tomatoes grown south of the lake. Some claim that the soil/growing conditions make them especially flavorful, but I've eaten plenty of delicious tomatoes grown all over.
In older useage, the moniker Creole simply meant "local" or "native". IE, locally grown tomatoes are Creole tomatoes.
Note that the named variety 'Creole' is a terrible performer in the areas where so-called Creole tomatoes typically were grown. If you buy a field grown Creole tomato during late spring/summer in south LA, it's probably a 'Celebrity'.
In older useage, the moniker Creole simply meant "local" or "native". IE, locally grown tomatoes are Creole tomatoes.
Note that the named variety 'Creole' is a terrible performer in the areas where so-called Creole tomatoes typically were grown. If you buy a field grown Creole tomato during late spring/summer in south LA, it's probably a 'Celebrity'.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:42 pm to mpar98
Not much different in a Creole and a Celebrity that I've found. Both excellent hybrids.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:45 pm to LSUballs
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Not much different in a Creole and a Celebrity that I've found. Both excellent hybrids.
Flavor is fine, but that LSU 'Creole' hybrid isn't worth the space in my tomato patch. It doesn't like heavy rain, doesn't bear much fruit, and it is always outpaced by every-single-other-variety in the garden. After about 4 years of trying to get something out of 'creole', I gave up.
It's nearly as bad as the LSU Purple fig variety. Heck, old-school brown turkey figs need no attention or fertilizer....7 years, and my LSU Purple had produced exactly eight figs. Bah.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:46 pm to hungryone
Tomatoes grown in St Bernard and Plaquemines taste good because they are able to keep them on the vine longer since they have a very short distance to transport which always makes for a better tasting tomato. Regardless if it is a creole or a celebrity or whatever else. Just like a tomato of whatever variety grown in your own backyard is better because you pick it just when it is ready and ripe.
I like the so called creole for the size. I grow the celebrity too but I grow probably ten different varieties yearly anyway. My Cherokee purple have been my best the last three years.
I like the so called creole for the size. I grow the celebrity too but I grow probably ten different varieties yearly anyway. My Cherokee purple have been my best the last three years.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:48 pm to mpar98
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Difference between regular and Creole Tomatoes?
Regular tomatoes don't go in gumbo
Creole tomatoes don't go in gumbo either
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:49 pm to Martini
Posted on 10/20/14 at 4:59 pm to hungryone
quote:This.
but that LSU 'Creole' hybrid isn't worth the space in my tomato patch. It doesn't like heavy rain, doesn't bear much fruit,
Mine did OK but when the heat and rain hit em this year the fruit was tiny and just not much of it...my Celebrities put out three to 1 what my Creole did.
What little that came out early was a beautiful tomato, just not too many of em
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:00 pm to Martini
The original Creole was a Heirloom tomato of indeterminate size meaning it gets very tall. Typically, heirlooms do not produce a lot of fruit but what they do produce is very juicy and flavorful....more so the determinant varieties such as celebrity and Early girl. I have had good luck with Carbon determinant Heirloom tomatoes in Dallas.....which is a tough place to grow tomatoes.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:02 pm to mpar98
I could eat a creole tomato like an apple 
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:03 pm to Zappas Stache
If you want to try a good old tomato from the past order some Louisiana Pink and some Gulf States Tomatoes and grow them from seed.
These are more of what I grew up eating but they kind of went by the wayside because they didn't produce a bunch of fruit so farmers selling tomatoes quit growing them. To me they are the most flavorful. I cut a Louisiana Pink open and my whole house smells like a fresh tomato.
These are more of what I grew up eating but they kind of went by the wayside because they didn't produce a bunch of fruit so farmers selling tomatoes quit growing them. To me they are the most flavorful. I cut a Louisiana Pink open and my whole house smells like a fresh tomato.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:09 pm to Martini
I don't care what they call 'em, those tomatoes down there were some good and the flavor tasted different to me than any other homegrown tomato.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:10 pm to Martini
quote:Kinda like boiling down mustard greens?
my whole house smells like a fresh tomato.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:09 pm to Martini
Plant some Bradley if you haven't already. Pink Tomato from
Arkansas. Top 3 mater IMO taste wise and grow pretty good. At least around here.
Arkansas. Top 3 mater IMO taste wise and grow pretty good. At least around here.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:29 pm to LSUballs
"Best" variety for LA varies so much....what works for my climate zone 9b isn't going to be a good choice for FunRoe. I did pretty good this year with Lemon Boy, a yellow hybrid. I like indeterminates, I leave em in the ground through August and they start bearing fruit again when the weather cools at night. I have decent sized tomatoes right now.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:30 pm to Gris Gris
The flavor you speak of will be soil related, just as the fruit from down there is top notch in flavor.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:46 pm to OTIS2
You can build that same soil in your own garden. Lot of compost and chicken shite. I could turn one shovel over in both of my gardens and get enough worms to let Opie catch a mess of catfish.
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