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Ham Hocks vs. Ham Shank
Posted on 2/23/10 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 2/23/10 at 12:22 pm
Which do you prefer to use when cooking beans? Also, does anyone know what the difference between the two really are?
I normally use the ham shanks and have the butcher cut a big one into 3 pieces.
I normally use the ham shanks and have the butcher cut a big one into 3 pieces.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 12:26 pm to DEANintheYAY
I used some shanks I bought at Joey's in Lafayette for a ham stock I made a few weeks ago. Turned out GREAT.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 12:27 pm to Gris Gris
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Gris Gris
What would you use in black eye peas or white beans?
Posted on 2/23/10 at 12:29 pm to DEANintheYAY
Hock. There is a Kraut joint up here that smokes all sorts of Swine and the Hocks up here are as big as both of your fists held together. And costs only $4 

Posted on 2/23/10 at 12:31 pm to ChicagoTiger
Wow...$4! Not $4 per lb? Dayum! Just as a point of comparison, how much are shanks?
Posted on 2/23/10 at 12:51 pm to DEANintheYAY
I do not know...I'll check today when I go!
yep, $4 total...I nearly shite when I heard that...tried to play it cool, but i think i blurted out "DAmn! I'll take 2!" and lost all my cooking street cred
yep, $4 total...I nearly shite when I heard that...tried to play it cool, but i think i blurted out "DAmn! I'll take 2!" and lost all my cooking street cred

Posted on 2/23/10 at 12:57 pm to DEANintheYAY
I use the stock for various peas and beans. I like to keep a supply in the freezer, so I make it a few times a year.
I usually make a black eyed pea soup for New Year's Day, for example, which is very good. I add some andouille or smoked sausage to it. I make red bean and andouille soup as well, but I've used them for lentils, white beans, split peas...
I made this one plain, but sometimes I make with some herbs like rosemary, thyme and red wine. That one is killer.
I think my shanks were under 4 bucks a piece. I bought a supply of them, when I saw them.
I usually make a black eyed pea soup for New Year's Day, for example, which is very good. I add some andouille or smoked sausage to it. I make red bean and andouille soup as well, but I've used them for lentils, white beans, split peas...
I made this one plain, but sometimes I make with some herbs like rosemary, thyme and red wine. That one is killer.
I think my shanks were under 4 bucks a piece. I bought a supply of them, when I saw them.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 1:08 pm to Gris Gris
Go to Smiley's on Jefferson Highway and Edward Avenue. They have red beans and you can get a braised ham shank. Really good.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 1:08 pm to DEANintheYAY
I don't follow this recipe to a T and I don't have all my notes from additional changes I make, but you get the idea on the ham stock from it. This stock is so good that you'll want to eat a bowl of it over rice or just drink it. I use a lot of shanks/bones etc... when I make it.
Notes from 1/08-Soaked peas for several hours before cooking. They don't need to cook as long as recipe says. Probably just about an hour, so may want to simmer before adding peas, for a bit. Added a little more fresh thyme to soup. Added more red wine. Never added any salt. Used proscuitto and pancetta with diced ham rather than bacon. Worked well. Needed to add some water for more stock. Diced the peppers. Didn't add potatoes or carrots per my preference. Made the night before New Year's Day.
Black-Eyed Pea Soup
Ham Stock
1 or 2 meaty ham bones
Large splash of red wine (approx 4 oz)
Large onion with skin (quartered)
3 cloves of garlic (skin removed but add skin to pot as well)
5 peppercorns
Fresh rosemary
2 bay leaves
Fresh thyme
Put ham bones in stock pot. Pour red wine over bones and cook for a few minutes. Add the remainder of the ingredients above, cover with cold water and cook for 3 hours. Take the bones out, remove the meat and reserve and return bones to the pot.
Add:
1 large stalk of celery w/ leaves cut in thirds
1 carrot cut in thirds
A little more onion (1 small or med & can also add some ends, etc if available)
Cook for 4 - 5 more hours
Strain, chill and remove fat.
Soup
Olive oil
¼ lb bacon, diced (I think I usually add a bit more)
2 large onions, chopped
3 cloves of garlic, minced
Ham stock and reserved ham from recipe above
1 lb black-eyed peas
Ham hock
2 cups of sliced celery
2 whole jalapeno peppers (or hot pepper of choice; I like habaneras)
3 bay leaves
fresh rosemary
fresh thyme
1 to 1½ lbs carrots, sliced
3 medium potatoes (one diced and use the other two to shred into soup)
extra ham (optional)
salt & pepper to taste
Pre-soak black-eyed peas either over night or in warm water for several hours to soften. Drain.
Sauté the bacon and onion in a little oil in a large stock pot until the bacon starts to crisp and the onions are opaque. Add minced garlic and sauté for an additional minute. Add the pork stock, black-eyed peas, ham hock, celery, hot peppers and seasonings. Bring soup just to a boil and then immediately lower heat and simmer for two hours.
Add diced potato and carrots and simmer for 1 to 2 hours longer. After an hour, peel the two remaining potatoes and shred into soup to thicken. Remove ham hock from pot, remove the meat and return the meat to the pot. Also, add reserved ham from the stock recipe above. Cook until beans are tender but not mushy. Add extra ham if desired during the last hour of cooking.
Adjust seasonings. Remove and discard hot peppers and bay leaves before serving.
Notes from 1/08-Soaked peas for several hours before cooking. They don't need to cook as long as recipe says. Probably just about an hour, so may want to simmer before adding peas, for a bit. Added a little more fresh thyme to soup. Added more red wine. Never added any salt. Used proscuitto and pancetta with diced ham rather than bacon. Worked well. Needed to add some water for more stock. Diced the peppers. Didn't add potatoes or carrots per my preference. Made the night before New Year's Day.
Black-Eyed Pea Soup
Ham Stock
1 or 2 meaty ham bones
Large splash of red wine (approx 4 oz)
Large onion with skin (quartered)
3 cloves of garlic (skin removed but add skin to pot as well)
5 peppercorns
Fresh rosemary
2 bay leaves
Fresh thyme
Put ham bones in stock pot. Pour red wine over bones and cook for a few minutes. Add the remainder of the ingredients above, cover with cold water and cook for 3 hours. Take the bones out, remove the meat and reserve and return bones to the pot.
Add:
1 large stalk of celery w/ leaves cut in thirds
1 carrot cut in thirds
A little more onion (1 small or med & can also add some ends, etc if available)
Cook for 4 - 5 more hours
Strain, chill and remove fat.
Soup
Olive oil
¼ lb bacon, diced (I think I usually add a bit more)
2 large onions, chopped
3 cloves of garlic, minced
Ham stock and reserved ham from recipe above
1 lb black-eyed peas
Ham hock
2 cups of sliced celery
2 whole jalapeno peppers (or hot pepper of choice; I like habaneras)
3 bay leaves
fresh rosemary
fresh thyme
1 to 1½ lbs carrots, sliced
3 medium potatoes (one diced and use the other two to shred into soup)
extra ham (optional)
salt & pepper to taste
Pre-soak black-eyed peas either over night or in warm water for several hours to soften. Drain.
Sauté the bacon and onion in a little oil in a large stock pot until the bacon starts to crisp and the onions are opaque. Add minced garlic and sauté for an additional minute. Add the pork stock, black-eyed peas, ham hock, celery, hot peppers and seasonings. Bring soup just to a boil and then immediately lower heat and simmer for two hours.
Add diced potato and carrots and simmer for 1 to 2 hours longer. After an hour, peel the two remaining potatoes and shred into soup to thicken. Remove ham hock from pot, remove the meat and return the meat to the pot. Also, add reserved ham from the stock recipe above. Cook until beans are tender but not mushy. Add extra ham if desired during the last hour of cooking.
Adjust seasonings. Remove and discard hot peppers and bay leaves before serving.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 1:58 pm to Gris Gris
Wow, that looks great! I made a pot of white beans for the first time ever this weekend. I made a "quick" stock by boiling the ham shanks and simmering for about an hour. My girlfriend LOVED them and wondered why I had never made them before! Looks like I got another dish into the rotation.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 2:24 pm to DEANintheYAY
I think ham stock is an underused delight. Try that recipe above.
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