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Pit Barrel Cooker
Posted on 1/17/16 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 1/17/16 at 6:24 pm
Has rave reviews. Anybody here use one? Suggestions on smokers. LINK
Posted on 1/17/16 at 6:35 pm to KyrieElaison
I used a WSM 22 for about 4 years. Last year I broke down and bought a Backwoods G2 Chubby. The WSM used way more fuel and was not near as efficient as the Backwoods. Both have water pans however the Backwoods produces moister meat than the WSM. Also cook times greatly reduced with the Backwoods. Only thing Backwoods cost about 3 times the barrel type smokers.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:03 pm to KyrieElaison
Have had one for almost two years. Love it. Super easy, great results every time with minimal effort. Couldn't recommend it enough.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 7:12 pm to LNCHBOX
Does it give a good smoke flavor with the shorter cook time?
Posted on 1/17/16 at 8:26 pm to LNCHBOX
Does it give a good smoke flavor with the shorter cook time?
The overall cook time doesn't usually effect your smoke taste. Once the meat reaches about 140 internal it won't take much more smoke on the inside. In fact to much smoke will build up on the bark and give a bitter taste if you continue to add wood after that. I usually hit the meat with a good dose of smoke for the first couple of hours or so.
The overall cook time doesn't usually effect your smoke taste. Once the meat reaches about 140 internal it won't take much more smoke on the inside. In fact to much smoke will build up on the bark and give a bitter taste if you continue to add wood after that. I usually hit the meat with a good dose of smoke for the first couple of hours or so.
Posted on 1/17/16 at 9:04 pm to KyrieElaison
never used one of these but for 300 bucks looks like a no brainer
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:22 am to KyrieElaison
I've had mine for about 2 years. It's fantastic.
The only thing I don't like is not having to go mess with it ever so often. That was my excuse to hang out by the grill and drink beer.
Cooks great though. Highly recommend.
The only thing I don't like is not having to go mess with it ever so often. That was my excuse to hang out by the grill and drink beer.

Cooks great though. Highly recommend.
Posted on 1/18/16 at 8:49 am to BoogaBear
Sounds like a good one. Like the idea of being able to smoke a weeks worth of meat by hanging it.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:26 am to KyrieElaison
I just looked at the web site...doesn't show a water pan. True?
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:28 am to WinnPtiger
Yes, no water pan is needed.
The design helps maintain moisture without a water pan. The size of the drum and the absence of a top vent.
It's all science-y and stuff.
The design helps maintain moisture without a water pan. The size of the drum and the absence of a top vent.
It's all science-y and stuff.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:28 am to WinnPtiger
Yep, no water necessary.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:39 am to KyrieElaison
I have a homemade barrel cooker that cooks awesome... all kinds of meats especially chicken... I got the idea when I was in Jamaica years ago
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:31 pm to Tiger Hoods
I would get a WSM instead. More versatile and can easily be converted to do everything a PBC can.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:08 pm to RedHawk
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More versatile
What does this mean? Like use it as something other than a smoker? Because the PBC can do that too.
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and can easily be converted to do everything a PBC can.
I don't necessarily agree with this. There are some things the PBC is just better at (same goes for the WSM of course). Here's a pretty unbiased review of both of them by someone that owns both:
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Full disclosure, I've had my WSM for about four years and been through nearly 100 cooks with it. Had my PBC for all of two weeks and been through four cooks! ALSO, this review is pretty lengthy and detailed.
I decided to keep it simple and rated only on the specific meats I've done on both: whole chickens, pork butts, spare ribs, loin/baby back ribs, and final overall taste/impressions.
My other criteria were start-up time, ease of use, capacity, versatility, build quality, and clean-up. I rated all areas head-to-head with ties if warranted.
Here we go!
Start-up time: Both the WSM and PBC are easy to start-up and come to temp quickly. The WSM has a few "tried and true" starting methods, including the Minion. The PBC is basically a "light the chimney, dump the coals and go" system. While both are great, the PBC is simpler and is ready to cook on as soon as a chimney of 35-40 briquettes is hot.
Winner: PBC
Ease of use: Again, both WSM and PBC are very easy to use and maintain temps extremely well. WSM can run anywhere from 200-300F by adjusting the vents, PBC locks in between 250-300F through its design. WSM uses two grates for all meats to smoke on, PBC relies mainly on meats suspended by hooks hanging on steel rebar for cooking (one grate is also supplied for other meats and finishing pork butts, brisket, etc). Both smokers/cookers are very easy to use and you can't go wrong with either. I have to give the nod to the PBC here, because I think it's more of a "set and forget" system, and the hooks and hook tool make moving meats around less hassle and mess. Also, for those short on time, the PBC can power through a big pork butt or brisket in 7-8 hrs (or less).
Winner: PBC
Capacity: WSM and PBC both hold a lot of meat. The WSM is limited by the diameter of its grates for meats like a big packer brisket and long spare ribs. The PBC can hang brisket and ribs with ease, but is limited by its one grate vs two on the WSM. If I'm doing ribs or a big packer brisket, the PBC would be my choice for capacity. If I'm doing a bunch of pork butts or mixed meats (ribs on top rack, pork butts on the bottom), WSM would be my choice.
Winner: TIE
Versatility: I think these are both great smokers/cookers. The WSM is a true water smoker, while the PBC is a cooker relying on convection and grease dripping on the coals or wood chunks for smoke. Both can cook just about any meat you'd want. The WSM has more ways to control temps and can do very low and slow all the way to higher heat. It also has more ways to control temps. For someone wanting the most versatile smoker, I'd have to recommend the WSM.
Winner: WSM
Build Quality: Noah Glanville has done a great job upgrading the PBC with the new thicker gauge steel drum and porcelain enameled finish. It's a high quality item top to bottom. The WSM is typical Weber quality and the warranty is one of the best in the business. While I expect both to last a long time, I don't expect the PBC to outlive the WSM. I wouldn't have any reservation on buying either one for my lifelong smoker/cooker, but if I had to pick the one that could be handed down to my infant son in 25 years, my money would be on the WSM.
Winner: WSM
Clean-up: I won't spend much time on this one. The PBC wins in just about every way. Cleaning the WSM isn't difficult, but between scrubbing the grill grates, emptying the coals, wiping out a water bowl (foiled or unfoiled), it's a 30 minute process for me. The PBC takes me 5 minutes. I put down heavy duty foil under the charcoal basket and empty that when it's done. Wash the hooks (1 minute maybe), and it's ready to go for the next smoke.
Winner: PBC
Okay, now let's get on to the actual cooks!
Chicken: Even with an empty water bowl and the WSM running as hot as I can get it (about 300f for me), I've never been wowed by whole chickens. The skin is usually rubbery, although the flavor is good. I prefer higher heat on my Weber grill or pellet smoker. On the PBC, chicken is wonderful. The skin gets nice and bite-through (crack that lid for the last 15-20 minutes!) and the flavor and juiciness is off the charts.
Winner: PBC
Spare ribs: I've had nothing but great results on my WSM with spare ribs, and the PBC was no different. Both turn out juicy, flavorful ribs, with nice color. The WSM ribs are more traditional, smoked spares. The PBC ribs have a more grilled/char flavor due to their cooking method. Both are fantastic, and are crowd pleasers. You can't go wrong either way here.
Winner: TIE
Loin/baby back ribs: I usually smoke loin back ribs on my WSM at 225-240F and use the 2-1-1 method. I paint them with a BBQ sauce and beer glaze every 15 minutes and layer on a sweet heat rub for the last 45 minutes of the cook. They're my favorite meat to do on the WSM. My results with loin backs on the PBC were very good, not great. I think not having the 1 hour in foil resulted in a less tender, less moist rib. The PBC "smoke fog" flavor was a great complement to spares, but with the loin backs, I felt it was a bit overpowering without the sweeter rub. It's also much more difficult to follow my saucing/rub routine like I do on the WSM. They were very good ribs, but I'll stick to loin backs on the WSM.
Winner: WSM
Pork butts: WSM turns out flavorful, juicy pork butts with nice bark and great wood flavor (I love pecan and cherry). Time is usually around 10-11 hrs for a 7 lb butt. PBC can turn out the same sized butt in 6 hours. That means I can start a butt at 10am and have it ready for dinner that night, even with a 2 hour FTC thrown in! The trade-off is the pork butt needs to be foiled for the last 2-3 hours on the PBC grate to insure tenderness and the bark does suffer. I also didn't care for the PBC flavor on the pork butt straight off the cooker quite as much, but a quick toss in rub and a little sauce brought it up to standards. I would not hesitate to make a butt on the PBC, but if time isn't an issue, I'd go with the WSM.
Winner: WSM
Final overall taste/impressions: You'll often see owners of the PBC say the taste vs a true smoker isn't better or worse, it's just different. I found that to be true. On some meats (chicken, spare ribs), the PBC was awesome. On other meats (loin backs, pork butts) the WSM would be my sole choice. In the end, the PBC will probably be my go-to cooker for chicken and spares, WSM for loin backs and pork butts. Overall, I prefer the wood smoke flavor of the WSM, but the PBC is fantastic too.
Winner: TIE (slight edge to the WSM overall, but the PBC chicken swings it to a tie)
Final Standings: WSM: 7 PBC: 7
I promise I didn't rig these results. They just really are that close. I love both smokers/cookers and will be using both quite often. Both WSM and PBC are high quality products that can turn out delicious BBQ. The true wood smoke flavor and "low and slow" nature of the WSM makes it ideal for traditional backyard BBQ. The capacity, ease of use, and shortened cook times make the PBC ideal for those who don't have the time for overnight cooks or those who cook for large groups/parties. Either way, you can't go wrong. Two thumbs up for the WSM and PBC!
Posted on 1/19/16 at 2:14 pm to LNCHBOX
It is more versatile cause it can do everything a PBC can do, but it is hard for the PBC to do everything the WSM can do.
Just add this hanging rack to the WSM and take out the water pan and presto, you have a PBC.
Not saying the PBC isn't a great cooker, cause it is from the reviews, just think the WSM is more bang for the buck.
WSM Hanging Rack
Just add this hanging rack to the WSM and take out the water pan and presto, you have a PBC.
Not saying the PBC isn't a great cooker, cause it is from the reviews, just think the WSM is more bang for the buck.
WSM Hanging Rack
Posted on 11/7/16 at 2:01 pm to KyrieElaison
Have eaten food cooked on one multiple times and everything is excellent. Flavor is excellent. Thinking about getting one.
Anyone else have one?
Anyone else have one?
Posted on 11/7/16 at 3:53 pm to Gris Gris
I've had one for close to two years and love it. I will probably never be without one now.
If you get one, I recommend also getting the ash tray that connects to the inner steel basket to make ash disposal very easy.
The perfect amount of charcoal for smoking is about 8 pounds. I found that a 10 qt bucket is the perfect measuring canister.
It's pretty simple in that you dump the lit coals after gray ash begins to form on the top layer of a chimney lighter, into the inner basket on top of what's left of the 8 pounds. That'll be enough coals to smoke anything without refueling. Set it and forget it (but check meat temps near the end of the estimated cook time).
For grilling steak, burgers, and other meats you want to char, never cover it so the heat can rage. The rack is high enough above the coals so you'll never have to worry about flare-ups.
What I also love about it is basting with bbq sauce will result in excess sauce dropping on ashes instead of other grill parts, so the acid of the sauce will not lead to accelerated corrosion of the grill.
My only complaint is when I hang a brisket, the lower portion often rests on the coals and can over cook. But lean portion isn't the best part anyway, so ta hell with it.
It still appears to be in near mint condition from the outside after 2 years.
Don't bother with the turkey attachment. I find it works better to split a turkey in half with each half having it's own standard hook. Using the special turkey hooks made smoke penetration into the bird's cavity less likely.
If you get one, I recommend also getting the ash tray that connects to the inner steel basket to make ash disposal very easy.
The perfect amount of charcoal for smoking is about 8 pounds. I found that a 10 qt bucket is the perfect measuring canister.
It's pretty simple in that you dump the lit coals after gray ash begins to form on the top layer of a chimney lighter, into the inner basket on top of what's left of the 8 pounds. That'll be enough coals to smoke anything without refueling. Set it and forget it (but check meat temps near the end of the estimated cook time).
For grilling steak, burgers, and other meats you want to char, never cover it so the heat can rage. The rack is high enough above the coals so you'll never have to worry about flare-ups.
What I also love about it is basting with bbq sauce will result in excess sauce dropping on ashes instead of other grill parts, so the acid of the sauce will not lead to accelerated corrosion of the grill.
My only complaint is when I hang a brisket, the lower portion often rests on the coals and can over cook. But lean portion isn't the best part anyway, so ta hell with it.
It still appears to be in near mint condition from the outside after 2 years.
Don't bother with the turkey attachment. I find it works better to split a turkey in half with each half having it's own standard hook. Using the special turkey hooks made smoke penetration into the bird's cavity less likely.
This post was edited on 11/7/16 at 4:01 pm
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