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Questions about smoking in a charcoal grill (Weber, PK, etc)

Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:22 pm
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:22 pm
I recently bought a PK grill at a garage sale (believe it or not). Someone said it makes a great smoker. (I know it’s a great grill). The only smoking I’ve ever done was in my electric Master Built smoker. Just set it and forget it. My back patio is getting a little crowded with a smoker, 36” grill, and a 36” Blackstone.
I rarely use my grill. If I can get rid of my smoker and grill, and just go with the PK, I’d be very happy.
How do you smoke on a charcoal grill? How do you control the temperature?

Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:14 am to
You already have a Master Built gravity smoker?

If so, get rid of this trash.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:38 am to
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You already have a Master Built gravity smoker?


Just a plain electric smoker (not gravity smoker). It does a good job, but I find it kind of a pain in the arse. It’s probably great for lower temp smokes, because you probably can’t get below 200 deg on a charcoal smoker.
Posted by roobedoo
hall summit
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:46 am to
Search “snake method”. You basically stack the coal around the perimeter so it burns like a fuse. You light one end of the fuse by placing 8 or 10 lit coals at one end. I found I can get a 4 hour cook with coals lines about 1/4 around the Weber. I cooked with bottom and top vents wide open. I’ve done bacon and spatchcocked a turkey breast. It works.
Posted by BlastOff
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:36 am to
I have a PK. You can smoke on it, issue is it’s pretty small so you’re not getting a lot of food on there. Easy to control temp, just get coals away from food, throw 10-15 lit briquettes in there, and use the 4 vents to dial in your desired temp. Mine replaced a rusted out Kettle, it’s solid, just small.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:13 am to
Gonna be tough to do just because of the limited grill space. But if it were me and I wanted to try, I'd dump a chimney of lit coals in one end then stack a few unlit coals around it.

Then I'd drop a couple of my favorite wood chunks on top the coals. Let those catch, close it down, set your vents and let it stabilize. Once there I'd put the meat on the grill opposite of the coals (indirect).
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:40 am to
Amazing Ribs site has good info on the PK, which it calls the King of Two Zone Cooking.

One zone is direct cooking/grilling over lit charcoal.

Two zone is for smoking low and slow over indirect heat.

Two zone setup is pile unlit charcoal on one side. Can use charcoal baskets, but not necessary. Use a starter cube or similar to get a fist size piece of the pile lit. Put the brisket, butt, etc. on the other side away from the fire. When doing this on a Weber kettle, I have used a pair of fire bricks to wall-off and contain the heat of the charcoal, and provide a heat sink to keep the temp more even.

Close the dampers (the keys to controlling the temp) above the charcoal and below the meat. Open the dampers above the meat and (partially) under the charcoal. This gets a flow of smoke and heat across the meat. Adjust the dampers as needed to achieve desired temp.

This will take some trial and error, so start with a cheap chicken or a forgiving pork butt that was on sale.

This review has a short video from the new Arkansas manufacturer of PK, who describes the smoking setup. LINK

This review of another PK model describes the 2-zone technique. LINK

Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
9809 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Just a plain electric smoker (not gravity smoker). It does a good job, but I find it kind of a pain in the arse.


Electric smokers cannot be any easier. You plug them in, set the temperature and add wood chips every hour or two. That's it. There's nothing else you do. The hardest part is adding chips.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:23 am to
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Search “snake method”.
This, and you can place a chunk of hardwood every few inches. Worked great in my kettle while I was waiting for my smoker rebuild.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:29 am to
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How do you smoke on a charcoal grill? How do you control the temperature?
Dad and I used 2 different approaches but with the effect.

Dad would build a tiny fire on the lid handle end and constantly feed it more charcoal a couple pieces at a time. Basically he used charcoal fuel to control the fire. Meat on the far end. Bottom vent under the fire open, top vent over the meat open, other vents closed.

I build a big pile of charcoal and barely open the 2 vents using the supply of oxygen to control the size of the fire.

Difference in quality of the product is non existent using either method. Cannot tell the difference in method between the outcomes of the 2 methods.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:48 am to
After I started this thread, I did do a lot of researching, and did see all kinds of methods (snake, etc).
I did find a universal fan that fits any opening of a grill. It is controlled by temperature probes, similar to an electric smoker, but it’s quite expensive (about $200).
One thing about my electric smoker, I’ve never been super excited on the quality of the smoke and especially the bark. I’ve never had a great bark on anything I’ve smoked, and I think it’s because of the electric heat.
I did notice on all the PK smoking videos, it looks like 225 deg is basically the lowest temperature I will get on a PK. I smoke a lot of salmon, which is smoked at a lot lower temp, but I did get a sous vide for Christmas, so I’m thinking sous vide the salmon, and just smoke afterward at 225 for 30 mins or so.

As far as the room to smoke more stuff at one time, PK does sell a rack that sits onto of the existing grate, and nearly doubles your smoking surface.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 9:51 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24696 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Electric smokers cannot be any easier. You plug them in, set the temperature and add wood chips every hour or two. That's it. There's nothing else you do. The hardest part is adding chips.


I always figured the hardest part about cooking with an electric smoker was fitting into the skirt.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27661 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:44 am to
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But if it were me and I wanted to try, I'd dump a chimney of lit coals in one end then stack a few unlit coals around it.


This will be way too hot. A full chimney of lit coals will have the PK rocking at 500+ degrees.

Rather, OP should put down a chimney full of unlit coals and place a few (10 - 15) lit coals on one side of the unlit coal bed if you he wants to chase low and slow temperatures.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27661 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 11:46 am to
I'm strongly considering getting a PK.

I currently have a Weber kettle and a slow n' sear. Before I got the slow n'sear, I would use the snake method regularly with great success.

But with the PK's limited capacity, OP should use unlit coals and then slowly burn through them with a small amount of lit coals and smoking wood. Make sure to close your vents, except the one where smoke is escaping, quite well.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 11:48 am
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