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TreeDawg's alligator sauce piquant recipe question

Posted on 1/3/09 at 8:12 am
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/3/09 at 8:12 am
So, i've made this several times, and it has always been a HUGE success with the folks. However, being that I live in NYC, alligator is hard to come by. I was thinking about using some duck instead (a mix of breasts and the dark meat).

Is there anything I should be aware of when substituting duck for gator meat? some recipes i have seen for sauce piquant have called for soaking the duck before hand. is that necessary?

thanks and i'll hang up and listen.
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 1/6/09 at 9:40 am to
thanks for the help!
Posted by TexasTiger05
Member since Aug 2007
28326 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 9:41 am to
game or domestic duck?
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 9:42 am to
quote:

domestic duck
I presume. Buying it at the grocery.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
81742 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 9:47 am to
can you post the recipe? sounds interesting to say the least
Posted by TexasTiger05
Member since Aug 2007
28326 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 9:47 am to
I really doubt there is much difference between using duck vs alligator.

found this...
wild duck or alligator sauce piquante

and it says
quote:

This recipe works well with alligator too. Cube the alligator meat and follow the rcipe above
, so i dont think you need to take any added steps.

my one question is game vs domestic duck. Not sure if there are huge differences in how the meat will hold up, etc. I really doubt it.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9160 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 9:50 am to
quote:

my one question is game vs domestic duck

Do grocery stores sale wild game?
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 9:51 am to
quote:

can you post the recipe? sounds interesting to say the least
Here is treedawg's recipe with some (very minor) spirit of dunson modifications. Also - I think his original recipe was for like 50 people. this one is scaled down.

Alligator Sauce Piquante

2.5 lbs gator meat – fat trimmed off, cut to stew size – seasoned
12 oz smoked hot or andouille sausage – diced
2 yellow onions – chopped (2 cups)
1 bell pepper – chopped (1 cup)
3 stalks celery – chopped (3/4 cup)
3 cloves garlic – chopped
1/2 bunch green onions – chopped (2 cups)
1/2 box fresh mushrooms sliced
6 oz real salted butter
1 can Rotel tomatoes
2 cups seeded and chopped plum tomatoes
5 oz tomato paste
2.5 oz tomato sauce
1 cup Burgundy
2 TBS Lea & Perrins
1/3 cup oil
1/3 cup flour
3.5 cups water or chicken stock
Sugar

•Brown the gator in melted butter
•Brown sausage in another skillet at the same time
•Remove gator, and sauté onions, bell pepper, celery, garlic and 3/4 of the green onions
•Remove sausage when browned
•Add oil to pork fat from the sausage, add flower and brown to a dark roux
•Turn off the heat, add 1/2 of the Lea & Perrins, and blend
•Add tomato sauce, paste, rotel, and sugar to the sautéd vegetables. Cook until blended well, then add the roux. Cook until blended again
•Add burgundy, 1/2 of the Lea & Perrins, and 1/2 of the water, bring to a boil
•Add gator back to the pot, add water if needed (enough to cover the meat). Bring to a boil, reduce heat and start spooning off excess grease. Stir often.
•Season generously, and cook slow for 3 hours. Continue to spoon off grease and stir. Add water and seasoning as needed.
•Add mushrooms and sausage and cook 1 more hour.
•Garnish with green onions and serve over rice.
This post was edited on 1/6/09 at 10:02 am
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Do grocery stores sale wild game?
not sure, but some farmer markets do.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27134 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:50 am to
quote:

Is there anything I should be aware of when substituting duck for gator meat?


Let er rip Bro................I have used various types of meat for this recipe, all good!!!

Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27134 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:54 am to
quote:

my one question is game vs domestic duck. Not sure if there are huge differences in how the meat will hold up, etc. I really doubt it.


Game Duck has a stronger flavor, which is not a bad thing............unless you don't like that "gamey" taste.

If you are opting for Domestic Duck, you just as soon use Chicken.............
Posted by TexasTiger05
Member since Aug 2007
28326 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 10:56 am to
funny enough, I dont really care for game, but the only game meat I really love is duck.

looks like a good recipe. I think I"m going to try it this weekend. My husband hasnt had a sauce piquante in awhile, and always asks why I never make it.
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27134 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:05 am to
quote:

My husband hasnt had a sauce piquante in awhile, and always asks why I never make it.


I see you live in Texas, Venison is excellent in this recipe!!!!!

Two key ingredients: Real Butter & Burgundy......take your time, it will be worth it..........
Posted by Spirit of Dunson
Member since Mar 2007
23111 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Real Butter
as opposed to what?
quote:

take your time
+1. I was letting it simmer, and it had that dark red coloring. After a while it turned very dark. It is always a big hit.
This post was edited on 1/6/09 at 11:08 am
Posted by JMTIGER85
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
843 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:08 am to
My buddy made the recipe for a tailgate with venison instead of gator. It was good as well.
Posted by Woody
Member since Nov 2004
2452 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:23 am to
quote:

My buddy made the recipe for a tailgate with venison instead of gator. It was good as well.


It better have been.
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
Member since Mar 2006
15080 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 11:37 am to
Since I am a Piscetarian, what do you think about using shrimp and vege sausage?
Posted by TreeDawg
Central, La.
Member since Jan 2005
27134 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Since I am a Piscetarian, what do you think about using shrimp and vege sausage?


Uh, well if I am Ariestarian, should I use Ram???

Shrimp goes in Etouffe or Creole, not Sauce Piquant
Posted by Dallas Tiger
Dallas
Member since Mar 2006
15080 posts
Posted on 1/6/09 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Shrimp goes in Etouffe or Creole, not Sauce Piquant



By who's definition? I've eaten plenty of sauce piquant in La w/ seafood.
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