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What are the basics of good chili? Wha do I need for scratch?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:30 am
Posted on 10/6/19 at 11:30 am
I am going to try to make my own from scratch.
I'm thinking fresh ground brisket for the meat, red and white beans, maybe tomatoes.
I need the general guidelines for spices.
Chili powder? Cumin? Sugar? Fish sauce? Oregano? Thyme? Cayenne?
Do I need to make a roux?
Ive seen people talk about adding chocolate and peanut butter?
I'm thinking fresh ground brisket for the meat, red and white beans, maybe tomatoes.
I need the general guidelines for spices.
Chili powder? Cumin? Sugar? Fish sauce? Oregano? Thyme? Cayenne?
Do I need to make a roux?
Ive seen people talk about adding chocolate and peanut butter?
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:07 pm to Nguyener
Mexene chili powder is the first essential.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:21 pm to Nguyener
quote:I wouldn't waste money on expensive meat. The flavor of chili is only minimally meat. Mostly you're tasting the other ingredients - chiles, cumin, onions, maybe tomato, etc.
I'm thinking fresh ground brisket for the meat,
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:23 pm to Nguyener
quote:Correct me if I am mistaken but I kinda lean toward thinking this was NOT what cowboys carried in their saddlebags around the prairies of central USA.
Fish sauce

Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:24 pm to Stadium Rat
Ok. Chuck it is then.... Or maybe short ribs.
Any specific type of chili's?
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chiles, onions
Any specific type of chili's?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:25 pm to Sidicous
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Correct me if I am mistaken

This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:28 pm to Nguyener
quote:Mexene chili powder is good as mentioned, but lately I've been using half pasilla and half ancho. I buy the large containers of powder off Amazon. And I use a lot of cumin.
Any specific type of chili's?
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:28 pm to Nguyener
No and I repeat NO damn beans. Love beans, they don't belong in chili though
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:30 pm to Stadium Rat
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but lately I've been using half pasilla and half ancho
I assume you mean you actually cook these chili's? Or you are using the powder?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:31 pm to BooDreaux
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No and I repeat NO damn beans.
In making a hearty meal chili. And I love beans.
Both beans and tomatoes will be in this chili.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:37 pm to Nguyener
quote:I buy the large containers of powder from Amazon.
Or you are using the powder?
And chili just doesn't taste as good without beans and tomatoes.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:42 pm to Stadium Rat
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chili just doesn't taste as good without beans
Canned? Or soak/boil your own and add?
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buy the large containers of powder from Amazon.
How much do you add for 2lbs of meat chili?
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:45 pm to Nguyener
If I have dried anchos or pasillas on hand, I will toast lightly in a dry skillet, then soak in boiling water for 20 mins or so. Once they’re soft, pull off the stems, remove the seeds, then purée with a bit of the soaking liquid.
But I don’t always have those, so I will use already ground ancho chili powder. I prefer not to use a prefab “chili powder”, and instead use cumin, ancho, a little Mexican oregano, and some smoked paprika. Brown onions, then add a rib of chopped celery, chopped green pepper (if using), then add the spices....stir the spices around til fragrant, then add garlic & your meat of choice. Brown the ground meat or turkey, then add a tablespoon or so of tomato paste...let the tomato paste “fry” a bit, then add a small can of whole peeled tomatoes, some beef broth, a can or two of diced Hatch green chiles, beans with the liquid from the can (or leave out the beans, it’s your damn kitchen), and a pinch of cinnamon and about a teaspoon of cocoa powder. Pour in a bottle of dark beer....let it simmer until it thickens. If you like really thick chili, you can sprinkle in a couple teaspoons of cornmeal and cook for 10 mins longer.
RE: fish sauce, it’s great in gumbo, crawfish etouffee, or anything needing a funky seafood backnote. Haven’t used it in chili, as I put plenty of other highly flavored things into mine.
But I don’t always have those, so I will use already ground ancho chili powder. I prefer not to use a prefab “chili powder”, and instead use cumin, ancho, a little Mexican oregano, and some smoked paprika. Brown onions, then add a rib of chopped celery, chopped green pepper (if using), then add the spices....stir the spices around til fragrant, then add garlic & your meat of choice. Brown the ground meat or turkey, then add a tablespoon or so of tomato paste...let the tomato paste “fry” a bit, then add a small can of whole peeled tomatoes, some beef broth, a can or two of diced Hatch green chiles, beans with the liquid from the can (or leave out the beans, it’s your damn kitchen), and a pinch of cinnamon and about a teaspoon of cocoa powder. Pour in a bottle of dark beer....let it simmer until it thickens. If you like really thick chili, you can sprinkle in a couple teaspoons of cornmeal and cook for 10 mins longer.
RE: fish sauce, it’s great in gumbo, crawfish etouffee, or anything needing a funky seafood backnote. Haven’t used it in chili, as I put plenty of other highly flavored things into mine.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:48 pm to BooDreaux
No beans.
No chilli powder use chillis fresh and/or dehydrated.
Chocolate instead of sugar.
Malty and/or dark beer to hydrate chillis and scorched vegetables.
Cubed and ground meat
No chilli powder use chillis fresh and/or dehydrated.
Chocolate instead of sugar.
Malty and/or dark beer to hydrate chillis and scorched vegetables.
Cubed and ground meat
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:50 pm to hungryone

Thanks.
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prefer not to use a prefab “chili powder”, and instead use cumin, ancho, a little Mexican oregano, and some smoked paprika.
Nice I'll try this out. Any guesses on proportions? Just a rough estimate and I can figure it out.
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Pour in a bottle of dark beer.
Like a Guinness? Or some craft oatmeal stout?
Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:52 pm to holygrale
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use chillis fresh and/or dehydrated.
I never really cook with chiliis. So I need some help here.
How many do I use? And do I just cook them with the trinity? Rough chop? Fine chop? Food processor?
Maybe it's just better for me to use powdered chili's

Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:05 pm to Nguyener
RE: dark beer, whatever you’ve got on hand. Guinness is fine, tho. Use what you like to drink.
RE: chilis, don’t fear them. Heat varies from chili to chili, just like with jalapeños. You soak in hot water to rehydrate, and you taste a little corner of a softened chili to see how hot they are. Volume wise, you’ll want to use about as much dried chili as you would use powdered. Eyeball it: a few tablespoons is plenty, and can even be too much if the chilis are esp hot. Removing the seeds helps tame the heat. Purée the chilis, don’t just chop. Food processor, blender, or immersion blender. The bits of rehydrated dried chili will still be a bit leathery, so you want the flavor, not the texture.
It’s fine to use powdered, if you feel more comfortable that way. Powdered can be toasted a tiny bit just before you brown the tomato paste. You want to build a base of chili flavor & browning so that it’s not an overly tomato-y taste.
It’s also nice to add a bit of lime at the end, for brightness.
RE: chilis, don’t fear them. Heat varies from chili to chili, just like with jalapeños. You soak in hot water to rehydrate, and you taste a little corner of a softened chili to see how hot they are. Volume wise, you’ll want to use about as much dried chili as you would use powdered. Eyeball it: a few tablespoons is plenty, and can even be too much if the chilis are esp hot. Removing the seeds helps tame the heat. Purée the chilis, don’t just chop. Food processor, blender, or immersion blender. The bits of rehydrated dried chili will still be a bit leathery, so you want the flavor, not the texture.
It’s fine to use powdered, if you feel more comfortable that way. Powdered can be toasted a tiny bit just before you brown the tomato paste. You want to build a base of chili flavor & browning so that it’s not an overly tomato-y taste.
It’s also nice to add a bit of lime at the end, for brightness.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:10 pm to hungryone
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chilis, don’t fear them.

I'll have to see if they sell dried chili's at the grocery by my house.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:16 pm to Nguyener
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Like a Guinness
I made one with a Guinness and beef stock this week and it turned out great. I use a mix of chili powders including guajillo, ancho and pasilla. I also added beans because I like them.
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:18 pm to Trout Bandit
I too like beans in my chili. So much so, I’ll make really big batches to freeze and use a can of cannelini, a can of black beans, and a can of red kidney beans. THREE bean chili for the haters, LOL. Seriously, chili freezes so well that I never make a small batch.
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