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Why all the hate for kitchen Bouquet?

Posted on 7/7/10 at 11:06 pm
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10504 posts
Posted on 7/7/10 at 11:06 pm
It is browned vegetables and a few other ingredients. Don`t get me wrong,if the recipe calls for the mirepoix to be caramelized,it should be done. I have no problem with it. But what about other short cuts. Who here would use store bought rice in their jambalaya,why not grow your own. What about the sausage,do you make your own,or buy something someone else made and you like the taste of it. The same thing can be said about the rest of the ingredients we use in our recipes. What say you!
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
60763 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 12:02 am to
quote:

What say you!


You're trying to justify half arse cooking by bringing up the ridiculous, and it aint working.
Posted by TIGER2
Mandeville.La
Member since Jan 2006
10504 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 12:35 am to
Those are all extreme examples just to make a point. Not trying to sway anyone into using it,but I`am sure you have eaten foods with kitchen bouquet in them that tasted good.
Posted by GarmischTiger
Humboldt County
Member since Mar 2007
6747 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 7:18 am to
People who look down their noses at Kitchen Bouquet infer that its use is cheating. You can get the same results with a little time, the right ingredients and proper technique.

The rice growing analogy is way, waaaaaaay off.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/8/10 at 7:29 am to
quote:

Those are all extreme examples just to make a point. Not trying to sway anyone into using it,but I`am sure you have eaten foods with kitchen bouquet in them that tasted good.



Perhaps, I'm sure I've gotten tricked before. It still doesn't do anything to make me want to use something to make up for my lack of skill or time in the kitchen. If you do it the right way, you don't need kitchen bouquet. I fashion it as a lazy and/or time management answer to a fundamentally principled cooking ideal. I know people who use it, and I've told them similar.

I'm sure to many it sounds like the ramblings of a hard arse, but to me, there is still a right way and a wrong way to do things in the kitchen, and the right way tastes better for a reason, because it's the right way. Heck, I feel guilty for short cutting using store bought stock because I didn't plan well enough to have my own on hand. KB is like committing murder compared to that. Growing up with my Cajun mother, and an anal retentive chef for a brother I'm sure has caused me to be a sort of guilt ridden principle dick about it, but so be it. It keeps me honest.


Just my 2 cents. Remember, you asked.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14963 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 12:33 pm to
cheating!!
Posted by lsualec78
alexandria
Member since May 2008
1363 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 12:38 pm to
So I guess you never use worchestershire either?

Or ketchup?


What about any kind of mustard?


ANY salad dressing?

I assume you make everything from scratch.
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 12:40 pm to
still I see the OP's point, little seems frowned upon more than KB.

many on here admit to using Oak Grove boxed Jamabalaya mix and not a word said.

One mention of KB and your cheating.

Is using zaterans crab boil cheating ?
Worcestershire Sauce, store bought marinades and BBQ sauces ... are they cheating as well ?

The only reason I see it called cheating is its not allowed at the Jamabayala fest, which I understand but neither is any other pre-packaged ingredient.



Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98402 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 12:41 pm to
I do make and smoke my own sausage and I don't use kitchen bouquet cause I know how to cook without it.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49033 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 12:42 pm to
I don't hate it, though I'm not sure it does anything but add color to a dish. I like my roast gravy to be dark in color. Even with searing in flour, it doesn't come out dark without some help. (I don't use beef broth to make the gravy.) I sometimes add a wee bit of KB to darken it, but it doesn't take much at all and has no effect on flavor. I think the bottle of KB expires before I ever get close to using it all.

I know folks who use it to darken gumbo, but the gumbo still tastes weak when the roux isn't dark enough. KB isn't going to change that issue.
Posted by windriver
West Monroe/San Diego
Member since Mar 2006
8656 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 1:04 pm to
toxic
Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

I don't hate it, though I'm not sure it does anything but add color to a dish. I like my roast gravy to be dark in color. Even with searing in flour, it doesn't come out dark without some help.


That is what I use it for mostly, brush on a lightly before seasoning.

Grandma taught me that 40 years ago and I ain't changing.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49033 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 1:28 pm to
Food stylists use it to make the foods, which should be a rich dark color, look better. Who knows what the food actually tastes like. I think it's basically a dark brown food coloring, as for as purpose.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Member since Feb 2009
63908 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 1:44 pm to
I use it for darkening purposes only - in stews, gumbos and jambs. I am roux based, not tomatoe

LONG LIVE SHORT GRAIN RICE !!!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
115542 posts
Posted on 7/8/10 at 2:40 pm to
I don't use kitchen Bouquet but I use liquid smoke. BTW, it's the same think as Fajita marinade. Check label. They are identical. So go with the cheaper bottle.
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