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Wesley Bryan suspended by PGA Tour

Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:23 am
For playing in the LIV Duels


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Doesn't even have full tour status and they suspend him while inviting Grant Horvat to play in a PGA event and the LIV Duels were hosted on Grants channel.
Posted by Scottforeverlsu
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:34 am to
I don't enjoy LIV, but more power to them.
PGA tour just keeps shooting itself in the foot imo. Really enjoy Wesley's content on YouTube and was looking forward to following him at the Zurich
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:16 am to
How in the world is this a “story”?

He was told what would happen if he did something, did it, then what he told would happen, happened…..

Bob Harig is the most pro LIv major golf reporter there is and even he understands how simple this all is

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If the tour didn’t have this rule why would anyone pay rights fees to them? They could always just easily go right to the players

The PGA tour has granted Bryan full waivers for all of his YouTube stuff the past year. How anyone thinks they should allow him to make content for a competitor is beyond me
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 9:18 am
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:23 am to
Thats all fine and good, Bryan does not have a tour card. He has been doing youtube for years and was never banned from it, not until a LIV event on Youtube. I was mainly posting this because they banned Wesley but invite Grant to play in a event when he played in the same LIV event and it was hosted on his channel.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:29 am to
Grant has had zero status or standing with the tour ever

Wesley did

The PGA tour met with all parties before the content with LIV and let them all know where they stood

quote:

French noted that all of the creators were informed through a third party that there was potential for disciplinary action from the PGA Tour, including being excluded from any PGA Tour-affiliated events and content going forward. Multiple sources told French those threats were later withdrawn except for the potential disciplinary notice to Bryan.


Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:50 am to
FAFO
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:54 am to
Wesley still has status. It’s former winner category, but he still technically has status and has made a few starts this season.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:58 am to
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Wesley still has status. It’s former winner category, but he still technically has status and has made a few starts this season.
Exactly. He is a tour member. If you let him play in a LIV affiliated event your open the tour for all players to do this
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 9:59 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:05 am to
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It’s no different than any sports league. The nba owns Steph curry’s media rights. He can’t play basketball on you tube or outside of the nba in a televised situation. The tour could not charge for tv rights and sponsorship without rules such as that


That's 100% not true though so his take is dumb as hell.

Posted by i am dan
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:06 am to
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I don't enjoy LIV, but more power to them.
PGA tour just keeps shooting itself in the foot imo. Really enjoy Wesley's content on YouTube and was looking forward to following him at the Zurich


I used to watch the Bryan Bros golf channel a lot when it was mainly just George. Honestly, Wesley gets annoying on there.. He just yaps and yaps and he's not funny or entertaining to me for some reason. I started off liking him fine, not sure what happened...
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 10:08 am
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:08 am to
YouTube golfers might have a more inflated sense of self than even the media does.

I used to like George and Wesley a lot, but acting like Wesley deserves to be in featured groups on PGA Tour Live with 2 top tens in a year, or acting like the PGA Tour hates them despite George getting multiple exemptions into fields is insane.

I get that it’s tough being humble with fans blowing smoke up your arse all the time, but just because your have a YouTube following doesn’t mean you deserve different treatment than everyone else would in that situation.
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:21 am to
Exactly what should have happened.

Most YouTube players aren’t affiliated with the PGA tour. They are 100% free to film content with either and the PGA has been fine with that.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:29 am to
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That's 100% not true though so his take is dumb as hell.
Ok. Correct it then and tell us how Steph or any nba player is allowed to play basketball games on their YouTube…..
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:36 am to







Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:39 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:07 am to
Great posts. And those nba players have to get consent in order to play as part of their agreement, which is exactly for the same as the Tour. Without consent they would be in breach and face consequence. Up to this point Bryan has received approval from the Tour for his YouTube content

Same scenario
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 11:08 am
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:12 am to
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If you let him play in a LIV affiliated event your open the tour for all players to do this

If you let Grant play in the Baracuda, you just admitted you had no standing to suspend Piot for a year before he ever had a tour card. You also admitted you have no standing to suspend any former Tour player who quit the Tour voluntarily years ago.

What's also fricked up is they waited until Wesley was already in the Bahamas for the PGA event this weekend to suspend him. That video was released 11 days ago and wasn't a live event, meaning they've known he played in it for at least 2 weeks.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:14 am to
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If you let Grant play in the Baracuda, you just admitted you had no standing to suspend Piot for a year before he ever had a tour card.
Except written in their actual bylaws it says they have the right to suspend anyone who plays LIv events regardless of status. They absolutely could have suspended all the content creators if they wanted to. They decided not to

It seems clear the tour views played as

1. Those with status

2. Those pursuing status

3. Those without status and not pursuing


Everyone those are logical categories if they didn’t have an emotional investment
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:17 am to
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And those nba players have to get consent in order to play as part of their agreement


I see that the NBA does have to give some approval, but it looks like they don't really enforce their rights under the CBA to have exclusive rights to broadcast such exhibition games with NBA players.


To me this whole situation is more of a "who gives a shite". Wesley Bryan barely ever plays PGA events so I doubt he even gives much of a shite about this. He makes more from youtube than he does playing professionally anyway.


It's not like this suspension really changes much (if any) of Bryan's life this year.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 11:30 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 11:18 am to
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Except written in their actual bylaws it says they have the right to suspend anyone who plays LIv events regardless of status. They absolutely could have suspended all the content creators if they wanted to. They decided not to

...and that's going to frick them in a Court of law when they arbitrarily decide when to suspend non PGA members for doing the same thing. You can look at the how the NCAA arbitrarily granting waivers worked out for them in federal court. I'll save you some time...not well.

I know you love to be the heel/contrarian with everything, but you're not going to win this argument pride. It's best you stop digging in

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3. Those without status and not pursuing

So Piot. He never pursued PGA status yet was suspended from the PGA Tour. What you meant to say is the PGA is determining who should and shouldn't be suspended by whether or not the player in question may be good enough to achieve full status on the PGA Tour, in their opinion. Because that is the only logical explanation not to suspend Grant or any of the other content creators not named Wesley who competed in the event.

They've banned non- pro golfers from competing in pro ams who have done business with LIV. Let's just call a spade a spade here. The PGA look like idiots in this situation. It wasn't like Wesley even competed in a LIV Tournament. He competed in a content creators event that was on Grant Horvat's youtube channel. It's pretty ridiculous they care. They suspended a guy with partial status and basically told him, you can't play in most of our events, but you can't play in theirs either and not just their official events, but any slapdick 9 hole youtube event they put their name on.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 11:27 am
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