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Ashwagandha and Ginkgo Biloba

Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by Ted_Stryker
Member since Nov 2018
163 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:24 am
Does anyone have any experience taking either of these herbs? I was looking into taking one or both for cognitive enhancement and stress reduction. Thanks!
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:42 am to
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Does anyone have any experience taking either of these herbs? I was looking into taking one or both for cognitive enhancement and stress reduction. Thanks!


Great way to waste money. Fasting will give you those benefits you are seeking on a much greater scale. Let me know if you would like to learn more about how to start a beginners fasting protocol.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29388 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:50 am to
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Fasting will give you those benefits you are seeking on a much greater scale


What about drinking urine?
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
60723 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:52 pm to
Use Rhodiola over Ashwagandha for stress. It will take about 6 weeks before you notice anything.
Posted by marchballer
The Greatest Country on Earth
Member since Aug 2008
4120 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:06 pm to
I'm pretty hippie and I don't even take either of these.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19245 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:07 pm to
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Great way to waste money. Fasting will give you those benefits you are seeking on a much greater scale. Let me know if you would like to learn more about how to start a beginners fasting protocol.


I’m interested. Can you give me the low down on how to start a fast? Preferably in your words and not a link to another site.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:34 pm to
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I’m interested. Can you give me the low down on how to start a fast? Preferably in your words and not a link to another site.


Too easy. You need to reset your system / microbiome and a quick 72 hr water fast is the ideal way to get a fasting focused lifetsyle started.

First and foremost you do not need to eat food if you are overweight. If you are extremely lean I’m talking <10% BF then 72hr fasts are the maximum I would recommend. However, for everyone else you should start out with 72hrs and move to 5-7 day fasts and once you feel the powerful effects you will push 14-21 days.

How to get started:

1. Stop eating
2. Only drink water mixed with electrolytes. A good electrolyte water recipe is: Water - 2L, Potassium Chloride Powder (no salt, nu salt found at grocery store) - 1 tsp, Sodium Chloride (Pink Himalayan Sea Salt) - 1/2 tsp, Sodium Bicarbonate (food grade baking soda) - 1 tsp, Magnesium sulfate (food grade epsom salt) - 1/2 tsp. Drink this as much as needed throughout the day (if you have a headache drink more, feel hungry drink more, start having diarrhea dial it back.)
3. Do this for 72hrs and break the fast with a zero carb meal (red meat and eggs preferably).

Once you get the first 72hr fast out of the way you will start to feel the powerful effects of fasting and realize the absolute garbage the FDA has been pushing on you is a joke (no you will not pass out, die of starvation, become hypoglycemic, etc)

You may have some side effects. Most of this is relieved by drinking the electrolyte water, but realize this is your body going through detox of all the garbage you’ve had in your system that the FDA has been shoving down your throat to make you fat and dependent on them. Good luck and if you have any questions let me know.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29388 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:38 pm to
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Can you give me the low down on how to start a fas


Don't eat
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
29388 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:39 pm to
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You may have some side effects. Most of this is relieved by drinking your own piss


FIFY
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:56 pm to
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realize the absolute garbage the FDA has been pushing on you is a joke (no you will not pass out, die of starvation, become hypoglycemic, etc) 


This is what always makes me shake my head at about fasting. Just not passing out or dying is a low bar.

If people want to give it a go, that's fine by me, but I also don't buy the detox angle. Consumption of food and removal of waste from that is quite literally what a large part of your body is built to do.

My wife recently had to do a 72 hour liquid diet and hated it. I understand there are people who say they feel better fasting, and if that's you, cool. I just personally have not met one.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:24 pm to
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Use Rhodiola over Ashwagandha for stress. It will take about 6 weeks before you notice anything.




Ashwagandha worked miracles for my stress. Never took Rhodiola. Took about 6 weeks like you say, stuff was a blessing during a very stressful period.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
13917 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:44 pm to
I think ginkgo bilboa is a waste of money but I take ashwaganda every day and it does seem to reduce my stress levels. I read a study before I bought it that said it reduces the stress hormone cortisol by 30 something percent. It also helps to bring testosterone up to baseline levels. So if for whatever reason you have lower than average testosterone it will increase it.

Also don’t just buy any ashwaganda. Go to amazon and look up KSM-66 which is a patented ashwaganda root extract. There are other forms of ashwaganda such as the leaf extract blend(sensoril)but that has an extreme sedating effect. KSM-66 is the perfect form and won’t leave you feeling like you’re about to fall asleep.

This is what I take and I highly recommend LINK
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 7:53 pm
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 8:13 pm to
Is KSM-66 safe for drug testing?
Posted by Ted_Stryker
Member since Nov 2018
163 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:38 pm to
Awesome!! That’s exactly the kind of info I was looking for.
Appreciate it, FlexDawg!
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
13917 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:48 am to
Yes
Posted by Ted_Stryker
Member since Nov 2018
163 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:03 am to
Flex, what is your daily dosage of KSM-66? Also, better to take in the morning or before bedtime?
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40617 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:29 am to
I take 400mg magnesium supplement/day that has definitely reduced my stress level. Even if its a placebo effect I'm sold.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
13917 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:46 pm to
Well I’d say since it reduces stess then I’d take it before work in the morning. 600mg.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
13917 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:49 pm to
Yes magnesium is awesome as well.

Also be cognizant of what forms there are and which ones would work best for you. But do this with every vitamin and mineral.

Magnesium citrate -- Magnesium citrate is the most popular magnesium supplement, probably because it is inexpensive and easily absorbed. Since citric acid is a mild laxative, magnesium citrate functions as a constipation aid as well as a magnesium source. It is a great choice for individuals with rectal or colon problems but is unsuitable for those with loose bowel movements.

Magnesium taurate -- Magnesium taurate is the best choice of magnesium supplement for people with cardiovascular issues, since it is known to prevent arrhythmias and guard the heart from damage caused by heart attacks. Magnesium taurate is easily absorbed (magnesium and taurine stabilize cell membranes together), and it contains no laxative properties.

Magnesium malate -- Magnesium malate is a fantastic choice for people suffering from fatigue, since malic acid -- a natural fruit acid present in most cells in the body -- is a vital component of enzymes that play a key role in ATP synthesis and energy production. Since the ionic bonds of magnesium and malic acid are easily broken, magnesium malate is also highly soluble.

Magnesium glycinate -- Magnesium glycinate (magnesium bound with glycine, a non-essential amino acid) is one of the most bioavailable and absorbable forms of magnesium, and also the least likely to induce diarrhea. It is the safest option for correcting a long-term deficiency.

Magnesium chloride -- Though magnesium chloride only contains around 12 percent elemental magnesium, it has an impressive absorption rate and is the best form of magnesium to take for detoxing the cells and tissues. Moreover, chloride (not to be confused with chlorine, the toxic gas) aids kidney function and can boost a sluggish metabolism.

Magnesium carbonate -- Magnesium carbonate is another popular, bioavailable form of magnesium that actually turns into magnesium chloride when it mixes with the hydrochloric acid in our stomachs. It is a good choice for people suffering from indigestion and acid reflux, since it contains antacid properties.

The worst forms of magnesium
Magnesium oxide -- Magnesium oxide is the most common form of magnesium sold in pharmacies, but it is non-chelated and possesses a poor absorption rate compared to those listed above.

Magnesium sulfate -- Magnesium sulfate, also called Epsom salt, is a fantastic constipation aid but an unsafe source of dietary magnesium, since overdosing on it is easy.

Magnesium glutamate and aspartate -- Avoid these two forms of magnesium completely. Glutamic acid and aspartic acid are components of the dangerous artificial sweetener aspartame, and both of them become neurotoxic when unbound to other amino acids.
Posted by Ted_Stryker
Member since Nov 2018
163 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 3:41 pm to
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Magnesium glutamate and aspartate -- Avoid these two forms of magnesium completely. Glutamic acid and aspartic acid are components of the dangerous artificial sweetener aspartame, and both of them become neurotoxic when unbound to other amino acids.



Interesting. Isn't Magnesium aspartate the form of magnesium included in ZMA supplements?
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