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Another sickly water oak

Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:31 am
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2038 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:31 am
My neighbor behind me to my east has a dual trunk water oak that’s shedding leaves right now like it’s fall. We’ve been here since 08 and have never seen it do this.

A little back story…we put in a pool and pool house the last couple yrs. We had to remove a live oak for our project. The arborist looked at the neighbor’s water oak and didn’t give it a clean bill of health. The neighbor is an older, divorced lady and has a pool as well. So I offered to pay for the tree removal and they were going to take it from my side of the fence. They’d only need to go in her yard to grind the stump. She declined due to the afternoon shade it provides her. I have a feeling that decision is going to come back and bite us both in the butt.

Any idea what’s going on with the tree? The leaves look like some kind of fungus to me.




Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:44 am to
All I know is that thing is rotting from the inside out.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15112 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:55 am to
quote:

we put in a pool and pool house the last couple yrs.


Digging to install the pool probably messed up the tree root system. I had a similar situation w an oak when some sewer/septic system work was done. My oak dropped leaves early & looked bad for 3-4 years and then recovered. Now its back to normal & looks good.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54329 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 11:44 am to
Looks like a blister fungus of some kind, maybe oak leaf blister. The stress from digging could have made it more susceptible. This fungus is not what is going to kill that tree, though. It isn't systemic and only happens under the right conditions. It is early, so it could leaf out again in the coming weeks.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 11:45 am
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43559 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:31 pm to
Definitely would be worried about it snapping in half during strong winds. Weird growth on that tree very tall but a thin trunk.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:43 pm to
Looks like you will lose some fence and the neighbor will have the rear of her home impacted.
Posted by JAMAC2001
Member since Jan 2013
2764 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:07 pm to
Odd question, but anyone have recommendations on someone who can build a fountain like that for my pool. I want to replace a diving board.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6457 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 8:24 pm to
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The arborist looked at the neighbor’s water oak and didn’t give it a clean bill of health.


Most that are 40+ years old aren’t. They grow for 40 to maybe 50 years and slowly die from the inside. In SE Louisiana they are right there with Pine trees that shouldn’t be within an area that could potentially hit a house.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2038 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:36 am to
quote:

Looks like you will lose some fence and the neighbor will have the rear of her home impacted.


Backstory on that fence. Her ex put a 6ft privacy fence in prior to us buying our house. That fence was blown over during Zeta. My FIL and I cut that fence up and got it to the street for her since she couldn’t do it and her 20 something son is lazy AF. He didn’t even come outside when we were carrying the pieces to the street.

She chose to replace it with an 8ft fence since her house is a little higher than mine. I split it with her. That’s why I was a little pissed when she wouldn’t let me take out that water oak for her.

When that tree falls or fence gets blown down again, she’s probably not going to get much help from me.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9803 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:42 am to
The tree looks fine to me.

I understand your position, but also understand the lady wanting to maintain her shade.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15112 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I understand your position, but also understand the lady wanting to maintain her shade.


He hates that tree because it’s dropping leaves in his pool
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
4388 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:48 am to
quote:

She chose to replace it with an 8ft fence since her house is a little higher than mine. I split it with her. That’s why I was a little pissed when she wouldn’t let me take out that water oak for her.

When that tree falls or fence gets blown down again, she’s probably not going to get much help from me.


You sure about that? I’m not a lawyer, but If the fence is on the property line, you may both be on the hook for it. And given that you split the cost with her last time around, it might be argued it’s half yours, even if it’s fully on her property.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 11:52 am
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2038 posts
Posted on 4/28/24 at 1:05 pm to
Absolutely. She’s also having the same issues with leaves in her pool. But I’m also trying to minimize our future headaches when it falls. Also she’s having some huge erosion problems with her pools decking since no grass is growing on the slope between the tree and her pool. I understand her desire for the afternoon shade. I offered to install some of those Coolaroo shades for her on her porch. Like somebody said earlier,,,it’s a water oak so we know it’s rotting on the inside. Just a matter of time before it splits in that crotch.
Posted by Bigdawgb
Member since Oct 2023
898 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 8:16 am to
Generally an independent arborist verification of a tree's poor health, followed by subsequent failure to remove said tree (by neighbor on neighbor's property) protects you and gives your insurance company more ground to stand on should they sue for subrogation.

I'd check in with treelaw on Reddit or consult a real attorney if you think the damages would justify the expense.
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