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Anyone use Hyper Tough (Walmart) 20v drill, etc?

Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 12:06 pm
I've been doing some home repairs and have Dewalt 20v, Ryobi 18v and Milwaukee 12v tools, all of them work great. My brothers have been eyeballing my stuff and occasionally borrow something to get a few things done.

I came across this on Slickdeals LINK,
it's the Walmart brand Hyper Tough. Drill, impact driver, reciprocating saw, light, 2 1.5ah batteries and charger, $50 for the set.

I actually went ahead and picked a couple up as gifts, I was curious if they were any good for just casual occasional use. I can't find any reviews other than at Walmart, and no comparisons at all with other stuff.

I understand they won't be as good as the better namebrand tools, but I was hoping it would be as good as, say, Black and Decker. I'm hoping that for your basic use (driving screws around the house, etc) this would be 'good enough'.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17746 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 1:40 pm to
I want to say I've seen some recent reviews on these tools and it seems they are a good value for around-the-home use, at least as good as Ryobi.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15480 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 3:20 pm to
I have been buying cordless tools of all brands for 30+ years for home use. I have never had the tool become useless before the batteries died or were obsolete
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 12/24/19 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

I want to say I've seen some recent reviews on these tools and it seems they are a good value for around-the-home use, at least as good as Ryobi.
That would be great, as in my experience the Ryobi stuff has been "good enough", at maybe half the price of the Dewalt or Milwaukee.

Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5089 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 8:15 am to
I do. It works.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 7:51 pm to
I flip houses and have the 20v drill and skillsaw. They work fine
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

I flip houses and have the 20v drill and skillsaw. They work fine
That's good to hear, I see the skillsaw is something like $35 online right now, and I think it comes with another battery (right?).

I might put a few of these tools on watch, and wait for Walmart to roll things over to the new Hart brand (supposed to happen this spring).
They're marketing Hart to be comparable to Ryobi, so the plan seems to be to get above the "gadget" tool level, and get something you might want to show off to your buddies.

I get that Hyper Tough seems like a "gadget brand" for sure, but figure a 20v (18v) lithium platform blows those old 9 and 12 volt ni-cad tools we used to gather out of the water. Routine home maintenance should be within their scope, and it seems like it is based on this.

If/when they drop to the clearance rack, I will pick up whatever I can, and set up some gifts.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 12/26/19 at 10:12 pm to
Edit to add- the set has dropped to $40 now. I already got what I was going to get for Christmas gifts, but I figure somebody might be interested.

LINK
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 2:17 pm to
I'm going to bump this, since I have seen a Dewalt lawn and garden tool thread, and I have had a little chance to play with this.

It seems to take awhile to charge these batteries, a fast charger would be a lot nicer. I see that Walmart does list fast chargers, but they run around $30, and we don't want to spend money on this
I guess wait some more, see how the clearance progresses.

As for the tools themselves... I have Dewalt 20v, Ryobi 18v One+, and Milwaukee 12v kits.

Hyper Tough is a red tool, straight red and not orange. Looks like the color palette matches Milwaukee, so at first glance they look ok.

The LED light, I figure that's a good first test. Physically, the flashlight design is EXTREMELY similar to the Dewalt, to the point that closing your eyes they feel the same. Handgrip with a pivoting head, with a clip on top. The pivot is not quite as smooth as the Dewalt.
The bulb and output is brightest with the Dewalt, the Hyper Tough is about equal to the Milwaukee 12v... bright enough certainly for under a hood or looking in the yard at night. Doesn't compare at all to a "real" LED flashlight for brightness, but I'd think the battery would last pretty long compared to one of those. The Ryobi sadly wasn't LED, so it gets smoked by all of the rest.
Also of note- the Hyper Tough has a prism lens, which does seem to focus the beam; and of all the lights it is the only one that you can adjust from tight beam to wide angle. I thought that was pretty neat and could be useful.
It also is the only one that has a flashing option, which I think is just a gimmick. But you click once for on, once again and it flashes, once again and it's off. The rest are just on-off.

I've seen some youtube reviews, and the reciprocating saw does seem capable enough. Someone did a review going around clearing stuff in his yard, he was taking green 1-2 inch branches down, and cutting up large branches up to about 4 inches thick. Seemed to work fine. I don't think you're going to get a Milwaukee Sawzall equivalent, but for basic homeowner stuff it looks to do the job.

I also saw a review on the impact driver, someone tested and it puts out about 90-100 ft lb torque. Not quite capable to pull lug nuts off, but definitely enough for, say, lawnmower blade etc.

One review showed a comparison with his old Dewalt 18v NiCad drill, and was testing 3" wood screws on a 2x4 and 4x4. He tested both the HT drill, and the impact driver.
The 2 drills performed about equal, and the imact driver was clearly the best of the bunch. It shot the screw in about 2 sec, and pulled it almost all the way through the 2x4. If he had a longer bit, it would have pulled the screw completely through with no problem.

So- this stuff is clearly functional, and pretty damn impressive for the price. Don't know about longevity, but it does have a 2 yr warranty.
I think the maturity of the Lithium battery has pushed the bar a lot for these tools.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:02 pm to
Just adding this, for comparison:

This exact set is currently $40.

I pulled up 4 tool sets at Home Depot, choosing the specific tools (impact driver, drill, reciprocating saw, work light).

HomeDepot
Closest price is a Ryobi 18v One+ set, at $149

Here's the Lowe's check, also nothing within spitting distance (Skil being the lowest @ $176)
Lowes
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11150 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:37 pm to
I got the hyper tough drill to keep in the house so no one uses my good stuff. Has worked fine so far. Maybe had it two years. Mostly light duty. I’d imagine you start running it hard that battery would over heat and kill.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36582 posts
Posted on 1/2/20 at 5:55 pm to
Dont know about hyper tough, but I have a chicago drill I got from harbor freight when I was younger and it still works fine.

The biggest thing about it is the casing/plastic. Fine for light use around the house. But I imagine it would shatter into pieces if it fell off a roof or from a ladder onto concrete.

That's where I would say something like a dewalt will prove to be a better lasting tool.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 1:22 am to
I'm following the thread on slickdeals about these; it sounds like they fit right around the Black and Decker line.

Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Dont know about hyper tough, but I have a chicago drill I got from harbor freight when I was younger and it still works fine.

The biggest thing about it is the casing/plastic. Fine for light use around the house. But I imagine it would shatter into pieces if it fell off a roof or from a ladder onto concrete.

That's where I would say something like a dewalt will prove to be a better lasting tool.


It's hard to say just from feel, but yeah, the Dewalts are better.

The tools feel ok, but the battery feels cheap and junky.

Clarifying- I wasn't the downvoter, because you make a very valid point. That probably is the biggest issue, the durability.

That, and the goofy stupid name... "HYPER TOUGH".
That sounds like something an 8 yr old would watch Saturday mornings.

That's probably the main reason Walmart is switching to Hart; the actual tools may not be much better, but at least the name sounds respectable. It lets them reboot, and try to get a foothold in the market.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:13 am to
Quick update, I took the reciprocating saw out back today, along with my Ryobi P514 and little Milwaukee M12 Hackzall. Used cheap blades on the bigger saws and the Milwaukee blade on that one.

I have to say I'm impressed with the HT, it didn't seem any worse or weaker than the Ryobi. I think it has a full 1" stroke, vs the 7/8" on the Ryobi. Both pruned off some pretty thick limbs, very comparably (and a lot quicker than the Hackzall). Did seem to get a little warmer, but nothing shocking. Got some limbs and small trees with about 3", still green, took them down.

And a guilty little admission...
This Hyper Tough set doesn't come with a bag or case, but... they ARE red.
I just recently got in a deal for a pair of Milwaukee 12v 2ah batteries, another charger, and another bag from Tyler Tools, $49.

That gives me 2 Milwaukee bags, and only 1 set of Milwaukee tools. I guess I can use the extra bag for the Hyper Tough , hopefully the bag doesn't evict them!
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21746 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:23 pm to
Just another quick update, for anyone who happened to pick this set up:

Walmart online seems to currently be better than in-store for some of the Lawn and Garden tools that share these batteries.

Here's a blower and weed trimmer combo, $89 online, looks to be $138 in stores.
LINK
It's got a 40v blower, meaning it uses 2 batteries. Some of the reviews suggest it gives 30 minutes of blow time, which is pretty doggone good- it might take me 5-10 minutes to blow off the driveway. Trimmer is 20v.
Of note, it comes with 2x of the 2.5ah batteries, and a modern, dual- battery charger. That's their best batteries, and the charger is an upgrade over the one that comes in the tool kit.

Then, for $52, this hedge clipper, comes with a 2ah battery and a cheap charger.
LINK

I needed a hedge clipper anyway, and could always use another blower and weedeater, to supplement the Ryobi.

So, all told, gonna be under $200 total for the Hyper Tough stuff, with 7 tools, 5 batteries, 3 chargers. Not terrible.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 11:25 pm
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
12303 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 4:48 pm to
quote:

that share these batteries.

This is key.

The money is not in the tools. It's rather in the batteries. For this reason I'd suggest picking a line and staying with it as much as possible. Plus it's always nice to have plenty of batteries instead of waiting on a charger and not being forced into drawing a lithium battery all the way down.
Posted by Duncan McOck
Member since May 2022
1 post
Posted on 5/2/22 at 12:02 pm to
I bought the 20v lithium to install security cameras on my house and it worked fine... went to drill 1/4in holes to mount new lights on my boat trailer and it stopped working completely on the second hole and it was only the second time I used it. Did a voltage check on the battery and the battery is fine.can not get the drill to work at all and only had it for 2 months
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