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Baton Rouge permit question
Posted on 2/16/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 2/16/20 at 9:44 am
I'm about to start a project to complete an unfinished bonus room. Electrical is already ran to the room...exact outlet and light locations just have to be determined. Plumbing is already up there too, but it has to be roughed in at the bathroom's exact spot. HVAC is prepped, but unit and ductwork needs to be done. Then, sheetrock, flooring, and paint needed to complete project.
Anyone know if this work requires a permit in Baton Rouge? Presumably all of the prep work was already inspected when we originally built house last year. If it does require permit, should I expect my assessed property value to increase?
Anyone know if this work requires a permit in Baton Rouge? Presumably all of the prep work was already inspected when we originally built house last year. If it does require permit, should I expect my assessed property value to increase?
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 2:07 pm to MaxDraft
Any electrical or plumbing is technically going to require a permit. That said, there is no way I’d pull a permit on the work you describe.
Posted on 2/16/20 at 5:45 pm to MaxDraft
Sounds like someone already pulled a permit to get it roughed in.
Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:54 pm to MaxDraft
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:51 am to seeinspots
From that list.
So if I put in a dimmer switch or add a ceiling fan I’m supposed to pull a permit? Yeah right.
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Any electrical work
So if I put in a dimmer switch or add a ceiling fan I’m supposed to pull a permit? Yeah right.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 5:44 am to MikeBRLA
Well, scofflaw, the OP asked. And I dont think the OPs project is as simple as changing out a dimmer switch.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 10:39 am to MikeBRLA
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So if I put in a dimmer switch or add a ceiling fan I’m supposed to pull a permit?
That's not electrical, that's beautification ;)
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:27 pm to MaxDraft
DPW is going to tell you that you need a permit.
If you've never dealt with DPW, they make life difficult. Not just from an inspection standpoint, I'm talking simply dealing with them. I could write a novel about the difficulties strictly in operations and personnel that they present, but I'll keep it short.
If they cant drive by and see that you're doing a major project then I would not worry about wasting the money and the headaches in applying for a permit.
If you've never dealt with DPW, they make life difficult. Not just from an inspection standpoint, I'm talking simply dealing with them. I could write a novel about the difficulties strictly in operations and personnel that they present, but I'll keep it short.
If they cant drive by and see that you're doing a major project then I would not worry about wasting the money and the headaches in applying for a permit.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:26 pm to Beef Supreme
I agree. The city is useless but the homeowner needs to follow the law. If anything happens to the home because of unpermitted work then the homeowner can be denied coverage by their insurance. However, dont think the city will do its part in inspecting the progress of any work. The homeowner needs to involved in the process and make sure the work is being done according to the plans submitted. This protects YOU as the owner. Its unfortunate but you just cannot trust the city or contractors/trade professionals to act in your best interest. Full disclosure, when we first started doing renovations on our home there were some things that we should haven obtained permits for. We stopped that practice a long time ago as I realized that having permits is a tool to hold a contractor accountable. Hope this helps.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:00 pm to MaxDraft
The city permit division is a kick in the balls to deal with. You could master the art of standing on your head and stacking greasy BB's easier than dealing with some of the great minds that occupy the DPW Permit & Inspections division. They truly bring the art of incompetence to a whole new level... With that being said-
Yes this requires a permit in BR.
Yes. The new evaluations will be turned over to the assessors office.
Everything done thus far was for the beginning stages of construction. Or "rough in" stages. The electrical, plumbing, mechanical, and framing will all need to be inspected for final inspections on their part once hooked up and operational. Just like when you built the house originally and called for final inspections.
Question for you and possibly something to think about. On you original plans, did you have a finished bonus room drawn out? Or was this something added at time of construction with you and the contractor? If this was included on the plans as original then you will be fine. If you added this and there is no construction documents, you will have to have some drawn for the permitting process.
You might want to talk with a couple contractors and see how thy feel about completing the work without pulling permits.
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Anyone know if this work requires a permit in Baton Rouge?
Yes this requires a permit in BR.
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If it does require permit, should I expect my assessed property value to increase?
Yes. The new evaluations will be turned over to the assessors office.
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Presumably all of the prep work was already inspected when we originally built house last year.
Everything done thus far was for the beginning stages of construction. Or "rough in" stages. The electrical, plumbing, mechanical, and framing will all need to be inspected for final inspections on their part once hooked up and operational. Just like when you built the house originally and called for final inspections.
Question for you and possibly something to think about. On you original plans, did you have a finished bonus room drawn out? Or was this something added at time of construction with you and the contractor? If this was included on the plans as original then you will be fine. If you added this and there is no construction documents, you will have to have some drawn for the permitting process.
You might want to talk with a couple contractors and see how thy feel about completing the work without pulling permits.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 5:02 pm to MaxDraft
Doing it myself, would not pull the permits.
Hiring a contractor, would make them pull the permits as part of their package.
Hiring a contractor, would make them pull the permits as part of their package.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:49 pm to 4WHLN
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On you original plans, did you have a finished bonus room drawn out? Or was this something added at time of construction with you and the contractor? If this was included on the plans as original then you will be fine. If you added this and there is no construction documents, you will have to have some drawn for the permitting process.
This is what the original house plans included which were submitted to the city.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:43 am to MaxDraft
Then my next call would be to a contractor to finish out construction. Yes, this would still require a permit to finish out, but if a reputable contractor is willing to do the work I would go that route. IF you were to get caught, you have an easy avenue to play dumb with DPWIP by having a full set of plans with a bonus already drawn and plans being approved and permitted before.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:27 am to MaxDraft
Those plans don't show the plumbing locations so they may need to be updated to get the permit. This isn't difficult to do.
I had a similar situation several years ago and I pulled the permit for one reason: I knew I'd sell the house eventually and there is a line on your property disclosure that asks if you properly permited any work done on the house. I wanted to honestly answer that b/c people can be litigious assholes and you don't want to lie on that form.
Yes, it was a couple of bucks extra and yes it slowed me down some. I had an a-hole inspector failed me when I wasn't home b/c he noticed the bonus room outlets and lights were live and tied into the panel during 'rough-in'. I had to pay for re-inspection the next day so he could come back, and I explained to him that the outlets and lights were existing and had been installed when the house was originally built. He pissed and moaned about it, but let me pass as long as I turned off the breaker during construction. You have to accept that shite like this will happen and you'll be fine. Most of the inspectors are ok guys that just want to see you trying to do things the right way. Some are just pricks on a power trip.
I had a similar situation several years ago and I pulled the permit for one reason: I knew I'd sell the house eventually and there is a line on your property disclosure that asks if you properly permited any work done on the house. I wanted to honestly answer that b/c people can be litigious assholes and you don't want to lie on that form.
Yes, it was a couple of bucks extra and yes it slowed me down some. I had an a-hole inspector failed me when I wasn't home b/c he noticed the bonus room outlets and lights were live and tied into the panel during 'rough-in'. I had to pay for re-inspection the next day so he could come back, and I explained to him that the outlets and lights were existing and had been installed when the house was originally built. He pissed and moaned about it, but let me pass as long as I turned off the breaker during construction
. You have to accept that shite like this will happen and you'll be fine. Most of the inspectors are ok guys that just want to see you trying to do things the right way. Some are just pricks on a power trip. Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:01 am to LSUengr
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Hiring a contractor, would make them pull the permits as part of their package.
I was down at the Permits office, a whole different story, while there was a hysterical crying woman in there who had hired a contractor who claimed to have pulled the correct permits. Inspector saw the work from the street and stopped, contractors left the job site and quit answering the phone the second he left. Lady was left holding the bag and no one would take the half-finished job especially with no existing permit. I really felt bad for her. Not enough to get involved but I felt bad. That office is a nightmare that makes the DMV look efficient.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:10 am to seeinspots
wow it crazy they want permits for these.
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Any fencing that is 4 feet tall or higher
Changing windows or doors
Solid fencing that is 3 feet tall or higher
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:20 pm to CarRamrod
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wow it crazy they want permits for these.
I know. That was my point earlier in the thread. It’s all about control and money with some of these.
Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:32 pm to MikeBRLA
quote:yep.... i want a new door, according to them i cant just go to the store and buy one and install it... i have to pay them to allow me to do it.
I know. That was my point earlier in the thread. It’s all about control and money with some of these.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 12:04 pm to CarRamrod
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i want a new door, according to them i cant just go to the store and buy one and install it...
Its all for the sake of safety and egress... blah blah fricking blah.
Its just part of a money grab.
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