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Can anyone explain kitchens without any ventilation for the stovetop/range?
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:06 am
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:06 am
This is what I'm talking about:
Looking at houses and I have started to see this more and more, especially in nicer homes. Like either they have a full on mega vent with cabinetry hiding the vent hood or this setup where it's just a range in the middle of the cooking area with nothing to vent.
Is there some plan with the HVAC to steer it away? Do they not cook? Do they just want their house to smell like cooking?
Looking at houses and I have started to see this more and more, especially in nicer homes. Like either they have a full on mega vent with cabinetry hiding the vent hood or this setup where it's just a range in the middle of the cooking area with nothing to vent.
Is there some plan with the HVAC to steer it away? Do they not cook? Do they just want their house to smell like cooking?
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Women don't know how to cook anymore. The stove is largely for show. Most used piece of equipment now is the phone for ordering food.
Occasionally, the microwave will be used to heat their ramen, or some Amazon.com piece of chinese junk to make boiled eggs, rice, air fried nuggets, etc.
The human race is regressing.
Occasionally, the microwave will be used to heat their ramen, or some Amazon.com piece of chinese junk to make boiled eggs, rice, air fried nuggets, etc.
The human race is regressing.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:38 am to SlowFlowPro
Those island ranges usually have a vent down the back or one side. It sucks air right back into the stove. Not sure how efficient they are, but can't be worse than the POS above my stove. Those things never seem to catch anything.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Usually you put a dowdraft vent on something like that.
I wouldn't want a kitchen without a vent.
I wouldn't want a kitchen without a vent.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 10:52 am to SlowFlowPro
I renovated my kitchen and removed my microwave vent and no longer have a vent. I may be out of building code. I have not run into any issues without a vent. I do have nothing above my stove and very high cathedral ceilings.
In my experience since doing this a few things I’ve noticed.
I would not set up my stove like the picture you posted. I have a raised bar that is behind my stove. I helps keeps things from falling on my stove and keeps people from getting burned.
I dont fry anything inside my house. I bought a fry daddy and fry everything outside.
Most important in my opinion is if you buy a stove/oven combo pay attention to where the oven vents out to cool off when the oven is turned off. Mine vents at the top back of the stove and gets very hot. It melts anything plastic sitting on the bar behind my stove. I’ve melted plastic lids, candles, plastics pot handles. If you planning on separate stovetop and oven then probably not an issue. They also make ovens that vent in the front to cool off and I think electric ovens are better at venting the heat. I have a gas oven.
In my experience since doing this a few things I’ve noticed.
I would not set up my stove like the picture you posted. I have a raised bar that is behind my stove. I helps keeps things from falling on my stove and keeps people from getting burned.
I dont fry anything inside my house. I bought a fry daddy and fry everything outside.
Most important in my opinion is if you buy a stove/oven combo pay attention to where the oven vents out to cool off when the oven is turned off. Mine vents at the top back of the stove and gets very hot. It melts anything plastic sitting on the bar behind my stove. I’ve melted plastic lids, candles, plastics pot handles. If you planning on separate stovetop and oven then probably not an issue. They also make ovens that vent in the front to cool off and I think electric ovens are better at venting the heat. I have a gas oven.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:23 am to SlowFlowPro
That's a downdraft model, pretty easy to tell in the picture.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:27 am to Shexter
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It sucks air right back into the stove.
Not if they are properly installed, they should vent to an exterior wall. They aren't terribly efficient but better than nothing.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:39 am to Milescb28
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I have a raised bar that is behind my stove. I helps keeps things from falling on my stove and keeps people from getting burned.
This is how my setup is. Never put up a vent. 8 ft ceilings, gas stove, cook often with no real issues. I don’t really fry anything either and anything that needs high heat gets done outside
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:02 pm to Shexter
An overhead vent is supposed to overhang the range by 6" on each side to vent properly. No one including myself does this. My cabinets wouldn't allow it. I ended up putting a 600cfm insert in to combat the smoke from drifting off.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:11 pm to Clames
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They aren't terribly efficient but better than nothing
That was generous. They suck balls so bad that I stopped trying to use the vent (it was the kind that popped up right behind the burners) less than 18 months after buying the house.
This may sound dumb, but just get a cheap Coway air filtering unit for $100 and put it somewhere that gets airflow on the first floor. Every time ex MIL would fry fish, it would kick on until she took it off the heat. No real issues.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
My current home was originally like that when I moved in back in 2020. it had a large PVC pipe in the foundation under the island that vented air outside the house to an exterior wall (which the previous owner did not use). It also had a skylight directly above the island so it was hot AF and zero fumes were able to leave the room. There is also a return air vent for my HVAC in the kitchen that would get caked with cooking oil in the filter. Installed a vent hood and used the pipe in the foundation to run a flexible gas line. So now I have a vent hood and a gas cooktop where it used to be an electric cooktop with no vent. Still cost me around $2500 for all the parts to do this though...
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:35 pm to bapple
Open the cabinet below and you'll see......
We had a George Jetson stove with downdraft venting in the kitchen. I removed the antique stove and then fought mice in the winter. Finally closed the hole and stopped the mice .......
We had a George Jetson stove with downdraft venting in the kitchen. I removed the antique stove and then fought mice in the winter. Finally closed the hole and stopped the mice .......
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:40 pm to LemmyLives
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That was generous. They suck balls so bad that I stopped trying to use the vent (it was the kind that popped up right behind the burners) less than 18 months after buying the house.
It really depends, my parents have a pop-up unit and the CFM that thing runs at is probably several times what a decent overhead model runs. Worked on an older Jenn-Aire setup once, again a very large, high-cfm blower and duct that took up pretty much all the cabinet space below.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 12:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
We have an island range where the downdraft vent thing has never worked.
I haven't experienced really any issues at all because of it so I haven't been in a hurry to fix it. Cook all kinds of stuff.
Perhaps my house smells like an Egyptian bazaar without my knowledge.
I haven't experienced really any issues at all because of it so I haven't been in a hurry to fix it. Cook all kinds of stuff.
Perhaps my house smells like an Egyptian bazaar without my knowledge.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
FIL’s house was built in 1987 and he opted for the Microwave over the stove with no venting in his small kitchen. The gas stove makes the kitchen a furnace when 2-3 burners are being used and the gas oven is on. He didn’t allow the window over his sink to be opened to help vent the kitchen so MIL would be in hell while cooking. I’d visit sometimes when she was cooking and I’d be greeted with, “I’m burning up in this damn house. Welcome to hell!” 
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