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re: Centipede mow height

Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:30 pm to
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But shortly thereafter they develop massive amounts of thatch buildup from the artificial growth and higher cut.


How does mowing it high create thatch? Not disagreeing just curious and don't know? My understanding is that longer grass grows less, there fore you would be cutting less off? Therefore less grass for thatch?

I guess what I'm saying is is there 100% coefficient between grass height and thatch?

Also, if letting it long creates thatch then you can bag it routinely. Not every time but every other or every third or whatever.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1952 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:51 pm to
I don’t know enough to disagree with all of the universities who universally say that long centipede can lead to centipede decline. I’ve seen the over fertilization thing cause problems first hand. I haven’t ever cut mine long because I was warned. It may work fine.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6901 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:05 pm to
If you cut 33% percent of the leaf blade off each mow 33% of 1.5 is less than 33% of 3. Also if it grows that tall you will cut some stems and that will take longer to break down. Mowing at the lower height does create more lateral growth.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22356 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:58 pm to
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If you cut 33% percent of the leaf blade off each mow 33% of 1.5 is less than 33% of 3. Also if it grows that tall you will cut some stems and that will take longer to break down. Mowing at the lower height does create more lateral growth.


Certainly. But are you saying your grass that is 2 inches high grows slower than grass that is 2.5 inches high?

I don't know? Would grass not grow at the same rate or grow slower as its taller? 33% of 3 inches is 1 inch and 33% of 2 inches is .66 inches. So if that was the case your 3" tall grass would have to be growing almost twice as fast as your 2" tall grass every week.

ETA: Furthermore, no one is cutting 33% off. People are setting their mowers at level 4 or level 5 or whatever and running it every Saturday. It doesn't matter what the height is.

ETA2: I have still yet to see any evidence that taller grass that is bagged is worse than shorter grass.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 5:00 pm
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Furthermore, no one is cutting 33% off.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13996 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 5:19 pm to
I don’t think it’s really that much of an issue as soil ph and proper fertilization and watering is. You can walk around my neighborhood (every lawn is centipede and under 3 years old) and see all the over fertilization stripes and dead spots on lawns that looked great last year. It’s clear as day that everyone is over ferting their yard. The guy from the lawn doctor is cleaning up In my neighborhood.

As long as you are minding those You’ll be fine. Personally I’m going to take the recommendations to mow lower. Some of the best looking centipede lawns I’ve seen have been cut at 1 - 1.5 inches. these were all cut with a reel mower but still food for thought.

I used to mow close to 3. I’m down to 2.5 and trying to get it down to 2 but there are a few high spots that want to scalp. I need to correct those.

Of course right now my lawn is thirsty af. Nothing I’m doing is showing any benefits. We need rain bad.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6901 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 5:49 pm to
Well I mentioned in another thread that grass doesn’t always need to be mowed on the weekend. You might mow it on Saturday and it needs to be cut on Thursday but you don’t have time. Then it gets cut on Sunday. Or it rains all day Saturday and you have to push it back until Tuesday.

You shouldn’t bag clippings except the first mow of the year. Lotta nutrients in those clippings.

Great thing about your grass is it’s yours and everybody can go about it differently. Some may cut centipede at 3 inches and it awesome and they never have issues. My parents have st aug and have never done a thing to it but they have few weeds, never had chinch bugs, and never has a fungus.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22356 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:35 pm to
My point is no one is going out there and measuring their grass before they cut. They are on whatever level their mower is and let it ride 90% of the time.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22356 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 6:41 pm to
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Well I mentioned in another thread that grass doesn’t always need to be mowed on the weekend. You might mow it on Saturday and it needs to be cut on Thursday but you don’t have time. Then it gets cut on Sunday. Or it rains all day Saturday and you have to push it back until Tuesday.

You shouldn’t bag clippings except the first mow of the year. Lotta nutrients in those clippings.


Certainly agree with a lot of that. But I think the avg person has a day they cut every week and planning a suburban type lawn for cutting when it’s needed and not when the owner is available seems like a plan to fail imo.

I mean no one prefers to bag, it’s more work? Again I’m not expert. But if someone told me it was better for my lawn to bag every other time and cut it long then to cut it short and throw a bunch of fert and herbicide and what not routinely I’d just as rather bag routinely.

My point was simply many grass directions are not realistic for your avg diy homeowner and frankly I see plenty of landscapers take the same mower from a yard with St Aug over to a yard with Centipede and not adjust. They aren’t exactly getting out a ruler and coming back in 2 days to make a perfect cut either.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19956 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:35 pm to
quote:


ETA: Furthermore, no one is cutting 33% off. People are setting their mowers at level 4 or level 5 or whatever and running it every Saturday. It doesn't matter what the height is.


You'd be surprised. I mow every 3 or 4 days to stay below the 33% rule on my grass.

I have a cool season grass yard but just mowing more regularly and sharpening blades more often did more for my grass quality than anything else I have done. People really neglect their grass when it comes to proper mowing techniques for the most part.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13996 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:56 pm to
I remember when I was younger:

“shite I need to mow”

Now it’s more like:

“Damn will you grow quicker so I can mow?”
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:57 pm to
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Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19956 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:00 am to
So true. The nicer the grass gets the more enjoyable mowing becomes. It is one of the oddest things I have experienced.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 8:39 am
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5087 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 8:23 am to
quote:

My point is no one is going out there and measuring their grass before they cut. They are on whatever level their mower is and let it ride 90% of the time


I actually carry a ruler with me when I cut just to make sure. Kidding, but I do cut twice a week to stay at less that a third. Probably a little more often than I need to but I'm trying to get my yard looking right again.

Now growing up, the lawn mower was set to 4 and was cut once a week and that was that.
Posted by LSU Fan SLU Grad
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2006
4893 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 12:46 pm to
On why you shouldn’t let the grass get too high:

Found this on the Scott’s site

quote:

Mowing. Centipede grass should be maintained at 1½ to 2 inches tall -- any higher and you start to see excess thatch develop. Also, make sure your mower blade is nice and sharp for a good, clean cut and only remove the top ? of the grass blades at any one time.


Seems to be more of a thatch buildup concern. If you’re not taking off much with each cut and you have a sharpened mulching blade, then i don’t see why this would even be a problem. I’m planning on it cutting mine 3”-4” and I’ll be making grass angels in that thick luxurious turf.
Posted by SuddenJerk
Member since Oct 2017
738 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:38 pm to
I was mowing my centipede at 1/2” this year and it was looking really good. If you want to maintain a height of cut at 2” then do an early spring scalp at 1 1/2” and then maintain 2”. It will grow in better than ever. Centipede needs very little fertilizer so the less you mess with it the better it will be. If you want to green it up use iron (feature/main event) instead of nitrogen.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13996 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 6:16 am to
Do you have a reel mower?
Posted by SuddenJerk
Member since Oct 2017
738 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 7:59 am to
Yeah a Swardman.
Posted by BengalBlood81
Member since Oct 2014
1323 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:30 pm to
Have any pictures of your lawn after a reel cut?
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13996 posts
Posted on 5/8/20 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

Have any pictures of your lawn after a reel cut?


And a pic of that dope arse mower?

I just spent an hour on their website dreaming.
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