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considering overseeding centipede with bermuda
Posted on 9/27/23 at 11:42 am
Posted on 9/27/23 at 11:42 am
like many in S. LA, my front yard looks like arse. primarily centipede that suffered from freeze, heat, drought this year.
corner lot, front yard. if I had to estimate, I'm talking 8-10K sq ft. coverage.
Im thinking next yr might be the time to try to start the conversion to bermuda.
(my back yard has a considerable amount of bermuda invading the st.aug/centipede and I love it)
Ive been reading some, but asking the H&G board for advice, experiences, etc on if this is something to do and how to do it.
corner lot, front yard. if I had to estimate, I'm talking 8-10K sq ft. coverage.
Im thinking next yr might be the time to try to start the conversion to bermuda.
(my back yard has a considerable amount of bermuda invading the st.aug/centipede and I love it)
Ive been reading some, but asking the H&G board for advice, experiences, etc on if this is something to do and how to do it.
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:03 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
This like the ronk bat signal.
Biggest concern would be around shade. Bermuda doesn’t tolerate shade very well.
Other than that, go for it. Converting from Centipede should be very easy and shouldn’t even need to kill the centipede.
Biggest concern would be around shade. Bermuda doesn’t tolerate shade very well.
Other than that, go for it. Converting from Centipede should be very easy and shouldn’t even need to kill the centipede.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:10 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:11 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
quote:
Im thinking next yr might be the time to try to start the conversion to bermuda.
What’s the process for this? Overseed with Bermuda and let it choke out the centipede or is there more prep than that?
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:24 pm to FieldEngineer
Burn (round up) or scalp with mower
add topsoil/sand
level
seed
runover the seed with anything heavy
cover the seed with peet moss (optional)
water 4x's per day for about about 2 weeks (5-10 minutes at a time)
put down a starter fertilizer in between days 1-14 of seeding
cut after 2-3 weeks
add topsoil/sand
level
seed
runover the seed with anything heavy
cover the seed with peet moss (optional)
water 4x's per day for about about 2 weeks (5-10 minutes at a time)
put down a starter fertilizer in between days 1-14 of seeding
cut after 2-3 weeks
Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:30 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
It’s going to take a few years
Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:49 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
quote:You'd probably enjoy reading this thread from The Lawn Forum.
LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Updated Link
A total transformation can happen in just a few months using the sprigging method. You don't have to seed or sod.
You can buy 2-3 pallets and spread it out over your 10k sq ft. to save a lot of money.
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 12:59 pm to bayoubengals88
Posted on 9/27/23 at 1:20 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
The late freeze killed most of the centipede in my front yard. I used my pro plugger to get a couple hundred Celebration bermuda plugs from my Dad. It took over and spread quick. It's choked out some St Aug already as well. I cut down a Crepe Myrtle that was shading part of it and it took off quick. It did a lot better in the heat/drought than the remaining centipede and St Aug as well.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 1:36 pm to bayoubengals88
What he said. I’d just add that you should not apply a pre-emergent. You’ll have weeds in your bermuda for the first few months, but don’t worry because you’ll have a slew of post emergent herbicides that are safe on Bermuda.
Also don’t seed until your average soil temps have reached 65 degrees for 3 consecutive days.
Finally, it’s a good bit of work, but very rewarding. You can also do the hard part (everything before seeding) a few weeks before you seed when it’s still cool.
Also don’t seed until your average soil temps have reached 65 degrees for 3 consecutive days.
Finally, it’s a good bit of work, but very rewarding. You can also do the hard part (everything before seeding) a few weeks before you seed when it’s still cool.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 1:43 pm to Tifway419
where are you guys buying quality seed in the BR area?
Recommending Tifway 419 ?
I read from Ronk that Arden is discontinued
Recommending Tifway 419 ?
I read from Ronk that Arden is discontinued
Posted on 9/27/23 at 1:51 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Handcock seed
Seed barn
If you prep correctly you can establish a lawn relatively quickly from seed. That being said it will be a common bermuda lawn. Common can be a great yard but hybrid can also offer some things that common can't.
If I were to start over I would plug or sod Tahoma 31.
Seed barn
If you prep correctly you can establish a lawn relatively quickly from seed. That being said it will be a common bermuda lawn. Common can be a great yard but hybrid can also offer some things that common can't.
If I were to start over I would plug or sod Tahoma 31.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 1:57 pm to ronk
These are good resources. Thanks.
Is is too late in the year to even think about seeding (given that this heat looks pretty prolonged)?
As you might have seen. I have bare areas.
Would the common on the Hancock website match my wild/common good enough?
Is is too late in the year to even think about seeding (given that this heat looks pretty prolonged)?
As you might have seen. I have bare areas.
Would the common on the Hancock website match my wild/common good enough?
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:18 pm to bayoubengals88
I’ve spent over $3k on seed from Hancock while renovating my yard. Started with Arden 15 but transitioned to Royal TXD (blend). Spring and fall seeding worked out very well, but the mid summer was tough. It was still pretty successful, but lead to a lot more weeds and much fewer Bermuda. Plus with the drought, I wasn’t able to really push much growth this year to get it to fill in.
Most of the common is pretty similar. If it’s “regular” common, it should match up fine. Improved commons can have a different appearance and properties (green up time, blade width, etc), so better to try to match up.
In south LA, it’s pretty late to seed. I’m about 12 days in on my last seed area for the year. Should be able to get it up and cut at least a few times before it gets cold and goes dormant.
Most of the common is pretty similar. If it’s “regular” common, it should match up fine. Improved commons can have a different appearance and properties (green up time, blade width, etc), so better to try to match up.
In south LA, it’s pretty late to seed. I’m about 12 days in on my last seed area for the year. Should be able to get it up and cut at least a few times before it gets cold and goes dormant.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 2:20 pm to ronk
Talk to me about the Saraha II bermuda.
Is it a common or hybrid? thoughts?
When spreading seed with broadcast spreader, do yall add sand or another medium in with your seed or sling straight seeds?
Is it a common or hybrid? thoughts?
When spreading seed with broadcast spreader, do yall add sand or another medium in with your seed or sling straight seeds?
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:35 pm to bayoubengals88
It’s getting late. Bermuda is gonna shutdown at 65 degrees. If south Louisiana has time then go for it but you’d be pushing the limits.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:44 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
quote:
Talk to me about the Saraha II bermuda. Is it a common or hybrid? thoughts?
Sahara II is an improved common. Its main feature is drought/heat resistance. I looked into it, but decided against it. I talked to Hancock to get recommendations since I was trying to match up to Arden 15.
quote:
When spreading seed with broadcast spreader, do yall add sand or another medium in with your seed or sling straight seeds?
I have spread over 300 lbs of seed with a handheld crank spreader. It sucks, but lets you be accurate and efficient with the #/1ksqft. I haven’t tried in a broadcast spreader since you’d have to mix with sand. Getting a homogenous mixture would be difficult IMO.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 6:45 pm to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
I’d go with Yukon or Royal TXD or laprima xd over Sahara. Color I find is better. Sahara is going to germinate better though.
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:13 pm to ronk
Thanks, I’ll be patient.
If I could just get rid of this disgusting carpet grass…
Is it safe to say that a good sized mat of carpet grass in your yard means low ph? Can I just mix in some lime?
I tested a spot with baking soda. Killed it dead. Same concept?
(And the good news is the Bermuda is already running across the baking soda area)
If I could just get rid of this disgusting carpet grass…
Is it safe to say that a good sized mat of carpet grass in your yard means low ph? Can I just mix in some lime?
I tested a spot with baking soda. Killed it dead. Same concept?
(And the good news is the Bermuda is already running across the baking soda area)
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 6:57 am
Posted on 9/28/23 at 7:25 am to LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
I wanted Bermuda and can tell you what worked for me. This was a two year process. You will need a liquid tank sprayer and something to evenly spread fertilizer. It takes time and money.
Kill everything with Round up. Scrape the yard, backfill and level dirt, and then plant Bermuda (Seeds or Sod depending on how deep your pockets are). Plenty water if no rain during planting. Buy plenty of MSMA (four times a year)/fertilizer/2-4-D (to kill weeds) for when the Bermuda takes hold. It will take regular maintenance and also like someone said does not like shade. But it is so easy to cut after you get it right.
Do this in the spring of '24. :-)
Kill everything with Round up. Scrape the yard, backfill and level dirt, and then plant Bermuda (Seeds or Sod depending on how deep your pockets are). Plenty water if no rain during planting. Buy plenty of MSMA (four times a year)/fertilizer/2-4-D (to kill weeds) for when the Bermuda takes hold. It will take regular maintenance and also like someone said does not like shade. But it is so easy to cut after you get it right.
Do this in the spring of '24. :-)
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