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Driveway Replacement- Fair price? - UPDATED

Posted on 5/12/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted by Unobtanium
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
1819 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 12:28 pm
Updated info:
I went with the first bid as described below, from Lee's Concrete LINK, and was very pleased with the finished product (pun intended). They demoed on Tuesday and poured yesterday; came back this morning to pull forms and saw cut expansion joints along the sidewalk.

I am not being compensated for this review, just passing on information to my fellow H&G board members.

End of update.

Got a quote to replace my driveway - includes removal of old driveway and section of sidewalk (about 1200 square feet total) pour 14 yards of 4000 psi fiber reinforced concrete. Just over $10k, or about $8.75/ sq ft.

Seems high but I don't have any real data to compare with. Getting a second quote this week just to be sure.

Any feedback appreciated.
This post was edited on 5/23/19 at 10:43 am
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24848 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 12:56 pm to
Sounds fair to me, concrete is expensive and there’s a lot of labor in removing the old
Posted by Vacherie
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2017
450 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 1:14 pm to
I can tell you that 4000 psi concrete in Baton Rouge is $106 a cyrd. I just bought 100 yards for a foundation.
Posted by mudcat tiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
269 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 2:14 pm to
Seems very high to me. I got a quote for 11 yards of fiber concrete and paying 2-3 men to work and finish it for less than $2,000. But I didn’t have any removal either. That’s north Louisiana also.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
290 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 6:39 pm to
I worked for a concrete contractor for 12 years - I’m now a concrete salesman in BR for the last 3.5 years. For 4” thick, 4000psi with removal - all fiber, doweling, keyway, etc - should be a minimum of $7 per square foot - probably more like $7.50 - I charged that more than 3 years ago and was competitive and had more work than we could handle. Pricing for materials has increased - especially over the last year. We don’t sell concrete to non account customers for less than $120 per yard for 3000psi. We have customers that pour 15k - 20k yards per year that pay more than $106 for 4000psi concrete right now. Fiber is $6 per yard added, and you can add about $4 per yard for 4000psi upgrade over 3000psi. $8.75 per square foot may be a bit high, but not by much.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32240 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 8:01 pm to
That’s actually a good price for that psi. Make sure they do keyway joints and that you see it before it’s poured

As long as it’s a reputable contractor I’d roll with it
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 8:04 pm
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6477 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 9:02 pm to
Any recommendations for a concrete guy?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32240 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:11 pm to
Where are you located?
Posted by Python
Member since May 2008
6477 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:40 pm to
Sorry. Prairieville.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
21913 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 6:18 am to
This should be a good post to revisit. I'm in Praireville and very much looking at new driveway depending on the cost or sections, if its better to do so.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5598 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:05 am to
quote:

This should be a good post to revisit. I'm in Praireville and very much looking at new driveway depending on the cost or sections, if its better to do so.

Same here. Following closely.
Posted by cberni1
Metry
Member since Jun 2012
539 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:13 am to
quote:

I worked for a concrete contractor for 12 years
I'm looking to pour a concrete driveway in the coming years and am going through all this research now to be prepared. I have a 10"x150" span i need to pour. No existing concrete (just grass) so the prep work will be a little easier. KNowing the prices for this much concrete and labor can get close to 10K, i was going to look at preping and forming it myself as i'm pretty handy.

That said, i've been watching videos and such on the prep and forming and while it seems relatively straight forward, i have my doubts. Is this something a weekend warrior like myself can handle or would it be better left to the pro's? I'd like to think i can save myself a few thousand on doing the prep and form myself and letting a contractor pour/float it.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 10:14 am
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
290 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:36 pm to
The prep is just as important as the pour itself. I’d always lean towards telling someone to let a pro handle it. Will it cost you more money in the short term? Yes. Can it cost you more in the long term if done incorrectly? Absolutely. There are plenty of reputable concrete contractors in the BR area that do great work. The things that you don’t see are just as important (if not more important) than what you will be looking at as a finished product.
Posted by cberni1
Metry
Member since Jun 2012
539 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

I’d always lean towards telling someone to let a pro handle it.
Understandable. Since i don't have any old concrete to break and remove, what would a reasonable price per sq ft run me for concrete and labor? This is in the Metairie area so it may vary from the BR area.
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
290 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:18 pm to
Any pricing is gonna depend on ground conditions first and foremost. Grass/sod, tree/plant roots, wet/sloppy dirt/mud, etc should all be removed prior to doing anything else. I never quoted a job over the phone without looking at the job first. If you are looking for a budget type number - in the BR area - as low as maybe $4.25 per square foot for a quick set up (easy excavation, quick form and grade) with 4” thick 3000 psi concrete with fiber. All the way to $7 or $8 per square foot for complicated set up with thicker or higher psi concrete.
Posted by lsupanda
Member since May 2017
17 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:50 pm to
Following, too. I'm in Prairieville and 2 people quoted me 20k to replace my driveway!
Posted by lsuchip30
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2007
290 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:46 pm to
I did one for over 20k about 5 years ago. Complete tear out of about 1500 square feet then pour back with about 1000 square feet added in patio and sidewalks. The ground was littered with tree roots that all had to be excavated - came back in with fresh dirt to fill the holes, compacted it, then laid down crushed concrete and compacted that. Then placed and finished 5 1/2” of 3500psi concrete on top with key way and dowels. Somewhere in the $8.50 per square foot range for that if I remember correctly.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5598 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:53 pm to
Based on information in this post, looks like that’s what it would cost me as well - I estimate 2,500 ft2 for a complete replacement. Looks as though removal of old driveway is as costly as the new pour, which I suspected it might be but was hoping it wouldn’t.

I might have to replace sections at a time, fortunately maybe about 1/3 is “severe” so I might have options. Haven’t gotten quotes yet but this thread has been very helpful in knowing what to expect and what to spec out.
Posted by lsupanda
Member since May 2017
17 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 10:38 pm to
I think our problem was that we also wanted to add a bit more on the side of the house to park. The worse part is at the front. It's basically a sink hole. We're either going to replace sections at a time or get a quote on asphalt.
Posted by GeauxldMember
Member since Nov 2003
4952 posts
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Looks as though removal of old driveway is as costly as the new pour


There are demo companies you can hire to do this, or at least quote you so you can compare to the concrete guy. Ask the concrete guy’s to break down their estimate and understand how much you’re paying for what, then negotiate.
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