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Grass not well under oak trees

Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:45 am
Posted by oilattorney4lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2068 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 11:45 am
I have several large oaks (4) in the front yard. Canopies are starting to crowd together.

St. Augustine is sparse because of shade, run off from sloped yard and neighbors centipede killing it then dying in the shade. Basically it’s dirt with some grass. It’s ugly. I want to take two of the oaks out but HOA refused.

Would you replant a better shade tolerant grass or put down a ground cover? If so what kind? It’s not the whole yard but about a good ten feet around each tree.

Thanks
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3429 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:02 pm to
First it has been a dry year so I would assume you need to increase your watering. I’ve heard differing opinions that the trees stealing all the water rather than lack of sun kills the grass under live oaks.

Second, under my tress I cut 3” high and never apply any kind of herbicides. Whatever decides to grow, I roll with it. My yard is a hodgepodge of grasses and weeds but it looks great from the street. Several people have stopped over the years while I’m outside to ask how I get so much grass under my trees.

Good luck!
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
2033 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:08 pm to
i would do some interior pruning if you havent already. Remove anything 3" or less and all dead wood. That should give your grass a shot in the arm.

I was an arborist for a few years. I would tell people "you can have trees, or you can have nice grass, but you cant have both."

Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:11 pm to
sap from oak trees kill grass, the total and complete shade also keeps grass from growing

if you have large oak trees expect bare dirt under them because thats normal and just part of having oak trees.

maybe winter grass might grow there for a while if you water it religiously but the sap that rains down from those trees will kill any grass
Posted by lsufanintexas
Member since Sep 2006
5036 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:27 pm to
or solve by putting down mulch or some sort of desert land scaling around all trees
Posted by Jason in BR LA
Dutchtown
Member since Feb 2012
134 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 12:33 pm to
Plant dwarf mondo grass. It looks good and takes foot traffic well. Plant 6 inch apart and it will fill in after a few years.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22364 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

sap from oak trees kill grass, the total and complete shade also keeps grass from growing


What Sap do oaks have?

OP, nothing will do better than St Aug cut long. End of story. Most poeple probably 90% of residential lawns I see cut their St Aug too short. It thrives at 3.5 inches plus tall and most cut it 2 inches or less. It needs long blades to collect the sunlight.

Also, as said you can trim your trees back but its expensive and can be hard dangerous work yourself. I do it myself with some chain saws and extension ladders but its hard to recommend to others without experience.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:22 am to
Grass just doesn't grow well under big oaks.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:45 am to
Stop trying to grow grass. Go with a combination of mulch and shade tolerant ground cover plants. Ardesia, Asian jasmine, mondo grass, etc.
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