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Heat Pump in extreme cold

Posted on 1/14/24 at 9:50 pm
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7093 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 9:50 pm
We are sitting at 8 degrees at the moment and the heat isn’t working. Quit keeping up few hours ago. Outside unit is running but fan not spinning. Nothing is froze up outside. Thank goodness for the fireplace and big pile of wood.
Posted by doomsday
Member since Dec 2009
14 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 9:55 pm to
Can you change the thermostat to emergency heat? It shuts down the outside unit and turns on the heat strips in the air handler.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17277 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:01 pm to
Heat pumps ain’t supposed to work in the extreme cold, time to switch to emergency
I hate heat pumps by the way
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7093 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:01 pm to
This unit I can’t. Unless it’s in the configuration/settings. Just options of heat, cold, and off.

When turn on it says stage 1 and 2 with fan on.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1252 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 10:37 pm to
Most H/pumps can't handle that cold. If you can't figure out how to run e-heat i.e. straight electric, then shut it off completely to keep from abusing it. Google your thermostat and try get the manual to find e-heat.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39606 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

hours ago. Outside unit is running but fan not spinnin


FYI this is normal for a heat pump to do at this temperature.

And ya,.once you get this cold then it's going to switch to Aux heat if you have it. Can smell weird.
Posted by num1lsufan
Meraux
Member since Feb 2004
1208 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 2:30 am to
Heat pumps aren't supposed to work below 32 degrees, time to turn on emergency heat.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20514 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 5:52 am to
Not all heat pump units have emergency heat OP and sometimes they aren’t set up on the t-stat properly.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31218 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 8:41 am to
Number one reason not to have a heat pump. I had one years ago, never again.
Posted by GoAwayImBaitn
On an island in the marsh
Member since Jul 2018
2159 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 8:54 am to
YouTube Heat Pump

Sorry but this thread reminded me of these commercials when I was a kid
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17059 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Heat pumps aren't supposed to work below 32


Nah, they can work down to about 5 degrees. Any colder than that and they have heating elements (just like a space heater) that the fans will blow through the vents.

Edit: I did some reading. Even at 0F a heat pump is still more efficient than a heating element (like a space heater or electric furnace). Companies are working more and more on developing heat pumps that work well at temps well below zero. There's no physics reason they can't do it. Right now it's an engineering problem.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 9:22 am
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18812 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 11:59 am to
Maine is pushing and subsidizing heat pumps, and folks are buying them like crazy due to the high cost of heating with fuel oil. The modern systems can provide heat down to -15.

The Mainers often keep/have a backup system, whether a fuel oil or propane system, wood stove, etc., but in a survey from February to June of 2021, 7 out of 10 homes did not need to supplement the heat pump.

The heating oil and propane sellers are running ads, websites, etc. to try to convince people not to electrify, but they are losing the battle.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

The heating oil and propane sellers are running ads, websites, etc. to try to convince people not to electrify, but they are losing the battle.



Sad people are so stupid as to put all their reliance into one system. Doesn't matter how efficient heat pumps can be, they require electricity and therefore only as reliable as the grid they are connected to. My fiancée spent a small fortune switching out perfectly good gas furnace for a heat pump system that promptly failed to provide enough heat durning last year's cold snap. Had to install a secondary mini-split system (Samsung HyperTherm). It's been doing better this year but they still have the kerosene heaters out and ready and at least one side of the house still has its natural gas furnace in place.
Posted by farad
St George
Member since Dec 2013
9754 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 3:36 pm to
friend had an issue with his...turned out to be debris clogging it up...

I believe you can also re-set the unit by turning off and waiting 5 or so minutes and then turn back on...
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7093 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 4:27 pm to
Had unit off all night and then tried again today. Fan and unit did come back on and ran for an hour but little to no heat. It’s 15 degrees now.
I’ll just assume it’s too cold for this unit.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56105 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 6:12 pm to
Go down to the WalMarks and get yourself a couple of electric space heaters right now before all of your pipes freeze and burst.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4473 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 6:24 pm to
I have a dual fuel system…once the temperature drops to low 30s I switch to emergency heat which in my case is propane heat.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39606 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 7:38 pm to
What is your thermostat set to relative to the temperature your thermostat is reading?

Set your thermostat to within like 3 degrees of temperature.

So if your house has fallen to 65, set it to 67 and see what happens. Don't set it to 75 or whatever.
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7093 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 8:24 pm to
Thermostat says 58, set it to 62. Everything ran but cold air out of the vents.

Have a fireplace which keeps us comfortable. Couple small heaters and water dripping.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39606 posts
Posted on 1/15/24 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Thermostat says 58, set it to 62. Everything ran but cold air out of the vents.


Too high, have to stay within 3 (may even be 2) or unit will go straight to aux.

Now that it's night time you might not get anywhere but when that sun comes up tomorrow try this and keep inching it up through the day.
This post was edited on 1/15/24 at 9:15 pm
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