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re: How to get rid of coyotes?
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:30 pm to Sir Drinksalot
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:30 pm to Sir Drinksalot
if you have one right now you certainly have another plus a litter. The pair raises the litter. Generally at this time of year they only eat stuff small enough to drag back to den.
Their numbers are increasing nationwide ESPECIALLY in suburbs, because we've created a perfect world for them.
getting them in a cage trap is very difficult, you'll catch more roaming cats and dogs than Coyotes(roaming cats are a whole other issue and more damaging to wildlife than coyotes)
There is no getting rid of coyotes in fact thinning them out is rarely possible - whatever attracted the ones you kill will attract more.
after the nuclear armageddon coyotes, rats and cock roaches will still be around.
Their numbers are increasing nationwide ESPECIALLY in suburbs, because we've created a perfect world for them.
getting them in a cage trap is very difficult, you'll catch more roaming cats and dogs than Coyotes(roaming cats are a whole other issue and more damaging to wildlife than coyotes)
There is no getting rid of coyotes in fact thinning them out is rarely possible - whatever attracted the ones you kill will attract more.
after the nuclear armageddon coyotes, rats and cock roaches will still be around.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 12:32 pm
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:44 pm to choupiquesushi
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getting them in a cage trap is very difficult, you'll catch more roaming cats and dogs than Coyotes(roaming cats are a whole other issue and more damaging to wildlife than coyotes)
At least coyotes play a natural role in ecosystems and are a native part of it. Roaming cats are not native, don't belong in the ecosystems they're in, rarely kill out of hunger, and are arguably the most destructive threat to native songbird populations nation wide.
I respect the coyote. I loathe roaming cats.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 5/28/24 at 1:49 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I respect the coyote. I loathe roaming cats.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 2:00 pm to LegendInMyMind
Coyotes are not any more native than cats in a lot of areas, especially the southeast. Like cats (and deer), they’re just pretty good at living in the sprawl.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 2:31 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
They are indeed native to the CONUS
Posted on 5/28/24 at 2:33 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
That's semantics, really. An animal expanding its range isn't the same as an animal with no connection to a given ecosystem being introduced. It is a stretch to call coyotes invasive.
Our actions are directly tied to their range expansion, though.
Our actions are directly tied to their range expansion, though.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 3:26 pm to LegendInMyMind
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That's semantics, really. An animal expanding its range isn't the same as an animal with no connection to a given ecosystem being introduced. It is a stretch to call coyotes invasive.
I would argue its semantics to use a continent to define an ecosystem. The Rockies and Sierra Nevada are drastically different ecosystems from the Alabama black belt, and they are no more native there than a stray cat. I enjoy listening to them on back porch, but to cuss the cat and not the coyote is just romanticizing that one makes a much cooler noise at night. Neither belong here.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 3:40 pm to Sir Drinksalot
Snares on fence lines where they are coming and going. Snares hunt 24 hours... day and night in all types of weather. Cheap, effecitive and reusable.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 3:54 pm to Sir Drinksalot
Yotes are not like people if there is no food they will move along. You will never kill em and like said above me the more you kill the more you will have. A good healthy eco system is ideal everyone eats.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 4:14 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
their eastward range primarily expanded due to the vanishing of apex predators in their "new range"
Posted on 5/28/24 at 4:34 pm to choupiquesushi
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their eastward range primarily expanded due to the vanishing of apex predators in their "new range"
The red wolf specifically. I don’t blame the coyote for taking advantage of the hand it was dealt, but filling a biological niche that was voided by development doesn’t make the coyote a native part of the ecosystem.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 4:58 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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The red wolf specifically. I don’t blame the coyote for taking advantage of the hand it was dealt, but filling a biological niche that was voided by development doesn’t make the coyote a native part of the ecosystem.
It expanded its range naturally, it wasn't introduced. It isn't like coyotes moved to areas that were vastly different. I guess we can say the same about armadillos, or any species that has ever expanded its natural range.
Comparing them to useless, destructive roaming house cats is just kind of dumb.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 5/28/24 at 5:55 pm to LegendInMyMind
FWIW the suburban Coyote is the smartest mammal in North America... except.... when the young of the year first get booted from their litter and in Feb when they go looking for love
Posted on 5/28/24 at 7:26 pm to LegendInMyMind
I don’t see how you can call extermination of the the red wolf a natural phenomenon, or that the Rocky Mountains aren’t different from Florida, but agree to disagree. I never compared a house cat to a coyote, I said neither is native to the southeast. They’re here to stay so it’s academic at this point.
Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:06 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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I don’t see how you can call extermination of the the red wolf a natural phenomenon
I never said this. I said that the coyote's expansion of its range was a natural occurrence once mesopredator release occurred when wolves were wiped out.
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or that the Rocky Mountains aren’t different from Florida,
Look at your gif and the vast area their original range covered. Pretty much every single climate is represented in those regions. The coyote was already a highly adaptable species before mesopredator release happened and they began their push East.
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I never compared a house cat to a coyote
Fair enough.
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They’re here to stay so it’s academic at this point.
That's true, and is the reason I may or may not treat roaming cats the same way I treat coyotes that threaten my property, though the coyote is much less of a concern to me.
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