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Impact vs. Drill

Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:12 pm
I need to do some projects around the house that involve lots of screwing (ha). All these young whipper snappers seem to use impact drivers nowadays. Why? What can they do that a drill cannot?

Also, the impact drivers are loud as frick - sounds like a construction site with jackhammers going off. Neighbors probably wouldn't be happy about that.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:21 pm to
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Impact vs. Drill


impacts are just for engine work and things that are usually torqued down, as in not household or handyman repair work

the impacts are for working on your cars and stuff in the garage like lawnmowers
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11387 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:36 pm to
Impacts are great if you have long screws into wood or larger lag type bolts to sink.

They also make unscrewing a cinch.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28991 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:54 pm to
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All these young whipper snappers seem to use impact drivers nowadays. Why? What can they do that a drill cannot?

1. They are shorter than a typical drill and so can fit into tighter spaces
2. They use quick connect bits which are awesome
3. The impact action produces more power *and* is less likely to strip a screw or bit
4. They are much faster than a drill
5. They give you more control
6. A drill loses torque in the higher speed gear. Impact driver delivers more torque at higher speeds.
7. They tend to be smaller and lighter allowing you to work longer.
8. You don't need to apply as much forward force which saves your wrist.

I could go on. I used to think the same as you until I got one. I thought it cost too much and would be rarely used. I was wrong, it was well worth it. I use it for screws mostly, but I also use it for drilling and especially with spade bits. I have a set of quick connect diablo spade bits and the impact driver makes it a breeze. It's not for precision drilling obviously but I'd rather pop 10 big holes in a 2x4 with the impact than just 1 with a drill. It's incredible really, it just goes through wood like it's cheese. It's too fast sometimes, I have to hold it back and say "whoa boy!" before it busts through and starts eating something else.

If you already have a drill but no impact, then I'd say just use the drill unless you plan to drive maybe 100 or more screws. Any more than that and you'll want an impact driver. You'll drive screws 3x as fast. Borrow one from a friend and see for yourself.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 9:56 pm
Posted by TigerCael
Member since Jul 2019
143 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 9:56 pm to
Impact drivers are good for setting lots of screws very quickly when you haven't drilled pilot holes and don't want to strip the screws or drive them in too far. If your drill has a torque setting on it you can get most of the way there without an impact by trial and erroring your way into the correct torque setting for whatever you're doing. Or if you take some care and focus on what you're working on a regular old drill will be just fine but last time I tried that I fricked it up after about 4 screws so take that for what it's worth lol.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43032 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:24 pm to
screw gun is for screws
drill is for drill bits
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7089 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 10:24 pm to
Impact driver has a quick release shank that can change hex head attachments easily. Super convenient there.

They’re better for wood and long screws. If you don’t have pilot holes for screws, you can go straight in with an impact driver.

They provide much more torque than a drill.

quote:

impact drivers are loud as frick


They’ll generally do stuff that requires a bit more torque, so yeah, but I think you might be exaggerating a tiny bit.

I love my impact driver. We had to put a closet together a few weeks ago and it was useful in getting all the screws and mounting hardware attached. The compact shape helps out tremendously.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 10:32 pm
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1410 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:07 pm to
I have a Dewalt drill I bought for a replacement 1 1/2 - 2 years ago. It’s still in the box. I have 3-4 impacts I use every day.
If you need to do some drilling, just get a set of quick connect bits.
The impact might be a little louder, but not very much louder than stripping the screws with the drill. And you will be finished a lot quicker.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
17745 posts
Posted on 5/14/23 at 11:55 pm to
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All these young whipper snappers seem to use impact drivers nowadays. Why? What can they do that a drill cannot?


For driving screws, lags, small bolts, drilling pilot holes, etc they are faster, lighter, and don't produce as much reactionary torque on your wrist. For a lot of common tasks they work well and less fatiguing. I use my 1/4" impact far more often than my drill and I also have 3/8" and 1/2" versions for large lags, structural screws and automotive work. One thing they don't replace a drill for is large holes in wood or drilling metal, especially with large self-feed auger bits and forstners. Also if you are mixing paint, mud, or similar. Don't use impacts for concrete/masonry anchors like Tapcons unless you have a specific driver kit.
This post was edited on 5/14/23 at 11:58 pm
Posted by windmill
Prairieville, La
Member since Dec 2005
7379 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 12:38 am to
Drill motors are not built to withstand the level of resistance(amperage load) of screwing things in or together. A drill is solely intended to drill holes.
An impact driver far exceeds the capabilities of a drill. An impact driver is a "go-to" tool. You'll find your list of things it can do will grow as time goes on.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7530 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 3:56 am to
I cant imagine going back to a regular drill unless its for a specific purpose. I'll say this; if you wanted to, the impact drill could put a screw all the way through that 2x4 and into the center of the earth
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28298 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 4:45 am to
I honestly can't imagine not having both (in both 12v and 18/20v) but if I was positively stuck with one it would be a drill with at least a 2-speed clutch. Drilling needs a drill but you can sick pretty big screws with a drill if you drill properly sized pilot holes and you can easily flush them up by drilling pilot holes with a countersink. Even with pilot holes, I would avoid Philips head screws since they are easier to cam out with a drill, but unless they are decorative brass etc screws Philips are of little use IMO. If they are meant to show I would use a screwdriver anyway.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 5:23 am to
I can't tell you the last time I stripped a screw head with my impact driver. If I'm just throwing screws into wood, I grab it first every time. If you need precision or need to be delicate, a drill with am adjustable clutch is still preferred.

As another poster mentioned, I typically use something like a square drive screw instead of a phillips, but even with phillips, I see no stripping with impact.
Posted by rodnreel
South La.
Member since Apr 2011
1452 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 6:37 am to
I have impacts in both 12v and 18v. The 12v can do the job 90% of the time. It's much lighter and allows me to reach out one handed to drive in a screw. This is useful when on a ladder.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14117 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 6:43 am to
quote:

I need to do some projects around the house that involve lots of screwing (ha). All these young whipper snappers seem to use impact drivers nowadays. Why? What can they do that a drill cannot?




Now that I have an impact driver I couldn't imagine not having one.

It makes driving screws so much easier, especially if you're in a weird position and can't get a good push. They zip in with minimal effort and stripping.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
848 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 6:44 am to
Get an impact you won’t regret it.
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10954 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:14 am to
I have both and use the shite out of both of them for reasons a few people already mentioned. I could never go without an impact. I do lots of woodworking and building. I always have a project so my opinion may not be the best for those just doing normal homeowner stuff a couple times a week. I’m currently building an extension on our back patio. Roof, walls, etc and I have a tool belt with holsters for both and being able to just grab whichever one I need and go to it is pretty easy.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22364 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 7:36 am to
The only answer is any homeowner should have both OP.

Drills are also good for low torque where you don’t want to over due something.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
32863 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:01 am to
quote:

The only answer is any homeowner should have both OP.

Drills are also good for low torque where you don’t want to over due something.



Agreed. Dont use an impact on plastic or finishing work. Use a drill with a clutch that you can adjust the torque.

My rule of thumb with a ton of exceptions is use an impact to disassemble and something else to assemble. I follow that until Im comfortable with whatever material Im working with.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28991 posts
Posted on 5/15/23 at 8:31 am to
Oh I want to add that an impact driver has a little bit of slack/play in the chuck. I'm not sure if it's intentional, but that bit of slack seems to be very helpful when starting screws. With a drill, if the screw wants to wobble when starting you have to take your time or maybe even use your free hand to get it started. With the impact the chuck wobbles with the screw and the tool stays pretty stable. Much easier to get them started. This is mostly a problem with phillips I guess, less of a problem with torx or square drive.
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