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Large pine tree struck by lightening a few months back. Is it dead?

Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28007 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:25 pm
Pine needles have begun turning brown. Is it inevitable that’s it’s dead? It’s easily the largest pine in my yard. If it falls it has a 50% chance of taking down something of value.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34642 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:33 pm to
I'm going with, yes, it's dead. Is the bark separated where the lightning traveled from top to bottom? A pine tree got hit in my neighborhood recently. There is a spiral from top to bottom in the bark where it was blown apart. Needles started turning brown immediately, now bark is falling off in huge sheets. It's DEAD.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46117 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 2:47 pm to
More than likely done, check your homeowner's policy, normally there is a limit of $500 a tree for lightning
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19798 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 3:02 pm to
quote:

Pine needles have begun turning brown.

Sounds like it was hit by darkening, not lightening.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43041 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 4:03 pm to
yes once it goes brown it’s already dead.
happens to a big pine in my yard every few years, it sucks.

and nothing makes a mess when it falls worse than a big pine
Posted by Baers Foot
Louisiana Ragin' Cajuns
Member since Dec 2011
3716 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 4:50 pm to
If there’s a 50% chance of taking something out, I’d remove it. But my parents had a pine tree that got hit by lightning more than ten years ago and it’s still going strong. Just has a Harry Potter scar.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3368 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 4:51 pm to
probably
trees die from the top down....
look at the top and branches close to it...
if brown and lower ones still done green ...it will soon all be brown...:(
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
19999 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Sounds like it was hit by darkening, not lightening.


I was in a state park recently, and they had a safety poster that alternately spelled it lightning and lightening. If you're going to be dumb, at least be consistent.
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1205 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:00 pm to
Remove it sooner rather than later. The longer you wait the harder to remove.
Posted by good_2_geaux
Member since Feb 2015
777 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

$500 a tree for lightning


Wick, are you subject to the deductible?
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18624 posts
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:04 pm to
My place in middle of nowhere has several little pines (now 8" diameter trunks or more) that have been hit out back just at the edge of the yard. Long black streaks down the trunk but they've all survived.

I did lose a couple of 100 year old oaks out front along the South fence though, different storms years apart.

The real mess was the tornado that took out the old old pines and couple of oaks that lined the driveway. Neighbor drove around the area with his bulldozer clearing stuff for people, no charge, even refused gas money.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28007 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:37 am to
Thanks for the feedback. Just looking for confirmation. Yes the bark is split all the way to the ground. Brown leaves started at the top and it’s spread to well over half the pine needles.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18624 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:48 am to
quote:

Yes the bark is split all the way to the ground
That is different from my struck and survived trees. The strikes did not make it to the roots for me, but sounds like yours got the taproot and/or main lateral root zapped.

You should make plans to get those trees removed. Depending on tree age, those roots could be around for a long long time so plan for their removal. (I still have some root/stump of 2 of the old huge pines from along the drive and the tornado was in early 90's. Snapped them off at ground level even though they were 3'+ diameter.)
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46117 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:55 am to
The way most lilies are written, the cost of tree removal, plus the cost of the tree falls into the total cost for tree removal, so even with the deductible on most policies, the $500 gets paid out
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9232 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:03 am to
Something happened to me a few years back. It fried electronic components inside the home, and some didn't show signs of failure until months later. Filed with my insurance company, and was covered for all components that failed (TV's, computers, motherboard on two appliances, phone system and DirecTV system) and for cutting down the tree and stump grinding.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 9:33 am to
OP, have it felled now before it is dead all the way. Reason, felling a tree that is dead after a long time will double the cost to remove it. Trees like that can kill you very fast when felling. It gets hard to control dropping them.
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4814 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I did lose a couple of 100 year old oaks out front


I would have cried. Anything that can be done to help these survive in a field?
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18624 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:56 pm to
quote:


I did lose a couple of 100 year old oaks out front



I would have cried. Anything that can be done to help these survive in a field?


Don't do old superstitious stuff like hang horse shoes and other pieces of iron in the forks and on the limbs.

Pretty sure these trees that got zapped all had great and double great grandkin doing that kinda thing way back. I know when I was young I could still see where the tree was growing around stuff hung 50 years earlier like a horse shoe and a piece of a wagon hitch. Granddad said the horse shoe was a good luck thing and the hitch was some luck with livestock intent. He had his own superstitions but didn't believe in the old ways.

I can't fuss too much though, about 35 years ago when the old gate fell apart, the latch pin about 3' long with the 6" ring on one end, got bent and was left laying in the dirt for years. I hung it in the fork of a crepe myrtle "temporarily" so I could continue the yard stuff I was doing. Yep, it's still in the now grown together fork, ring on one side of tree and end of pin on the other.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

That is different from my struck and survived trees. The strikes did not make it to the roots for me, but sounds like yours got the taproot and/or main lateral root zapped.


We had a pine tree get hit about 2 years ago (big spot up the tree with some missing bark in patchy streaks down the tree; there was also a bit of a hole on the ground near the tree). The strike also took out cable boxes and a tv inside.

Friend who runs a landscaping company said it would die soon and put us in touch with someone who runs a tree cutting business. That person came out and said it might live and to give it 3-6 months and it should be clear on whether it would live by then.

It's still there and going strong. But if it's going brown, it sounds like it's gone.

If you bring out a tree company for a quote, they can probably tell you definitively on whether it's dead or not.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
11451 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:24 pm to
Yep.
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