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Posted on 2/23/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12701 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 1:53 pm
Does anyone have solar panels on their house? Do you regret it? Where I live in north Louisiana, we have extremely high energy costs. I'm playing $0.16 kw/h or somewhere around there. Would it be beneficial for me? what kind of costs are involved? Yes, I've read the sunpro website, but looking for some personal experience. Thanks.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33863 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 2:04 pm to
I have solar panels on my house. Here are a few things to know.

1) Years ago, Louisiana and the Fed were subsidizing the program to get solar panels. La is no longer subsidizing. Without those tax refunds, it is not worth it. My system paid itself off in 5 years. Without the refunds, it would've taken 20 which is the life of the system.
back then, La offered 12.5 and the fed 7.5 of your first $25K spent. So, it was $5k out of pocket.

2) Replace your roof before they put on the panels. To take them off and replace is expensive and a PITA.

3) Your roof needs a clear view of the southern sky.


Solar is the future, but he tech is not there yet in terms of energy production to cost ratio.
This post was edited on 2/23/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12701 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 2:23 pm to
Thanks Coach. This is what I'm looking for.. 5 year payout, I would pull the trigger today. I got a new roof last year and the back of my house (lots of roof sq. ft) faces southwest which would have been perfect.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33863 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

Thanks Coach. This is what I'm looking for.. 5 year payout, I would pull the trigger today


Yes, it was a no brainer for me 6-7 years ago. I'm now making money each month.

Look into the subsidies out there. If you have a high cost per KW/hr, it may still benefit you to get a system.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12701 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 2:34 pm to
I'm just now starting to research. have any leads to said subsidies?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
33863 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 2:45 pm to
energy.gov
there still a credit from the fed.

louisiana.gov

It looks like nothing from the state of Louisiana.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12701 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 3:03 pm to
thanks again.
Posted by tigerstripes
Loranger, LA
Member since Aug 2006
844 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:35 pm to
Anybody know of smaller install company near say Hammond area. Our system is 11 years old was 8 kw and it had some good years. The panels turned to shite and we just got a check to replace with new...Still looking for installer other than the bigger companies.If I had to start fresh without federal and state incentives I probably would pass.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
848 posts
Posted on 2/23/22 at 8:01 pm to
If you have the mounting system on your roof, it seems like it would not be that difficult to replace, but I have no experience.

I’m really intrigued with the hybrid off grid systems that could also be used in an outage. The batteries are expensive though.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2877 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 3:25 pm to
"Under my energy plan, electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket"


That guy and his plans haven't gone anywhere. Once folks get wind that rates are and will keep going up, solar and those battery prices of today will seem cheap.
Posted by Deerhunter62
Member since Mar 2014
329 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 7:03 pm to
I have panels that were installed in 2014 when we had the full tax break. I recovered my initial invest in 6 years. I have had to replace 8 micro-inverters, due to poor design. The new inverters are not affected by high temps. The other issue I have is with Entergy running voltage to my house
to high and tripping my panels.
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12701 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

I’m really intrigued with the hybrid off grid systems that could also be used in an outage. The batteries are expensive though.


That system is expensive.. I would go generator route
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1643 posts
Posted on 4/12/22 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

The batteries are expensive though.


They are about to get REAL expensive. Lithium up ninefold.

Epoch Times

quote:

“China is the dominant supplier for multiple critical minerals and is likely to remain so. In the case of minerals it does not supply—such as cobalt—China has near-monopolistic control of refining capacity through its state-owned enterprises,” states the March report, which was authored by Phil Rossetti and George David Banks for the Citizens for Responsible Energy Solutions (CRES) Forum. The projected demand may require more of some minerals than can be found in total reserves.

“Increasingly, scholars are questioning the mineral requirements that would be needed to reach either 100 [percent] renewable or clean energy targets,” the CRES Forum’s analysis states.

The warning comes at a crucial time for global mineral markets: the benchmark prices of lithium, lithium carbonate, and lithium hydroxide have rapidly increased in recent months, as detailed at Benchmark Minerals.

For example, the benchmark price of lithium has increased more than ninefold to 1045.90 a ton in March 2022, from hovering at just 115.80 per ton in September 2020.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86284 posts
Posted on 4/13/22 at 9:38 am to
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from hovering at just 115.80 per ton in September 2020.


Honestly, that seems pretty low when you look at how much investment is required for mining lithium. Not as easy task.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43020 posts
Posted on 4/13/22 at 9:44 am to
quote:

for mining lithium

most lithuim is extracted from brine
Posted by FlyingPelican
St. George, Louisiana
Member since Sep 2021
196 posts
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:20 am to
Are you planning to place the solar panels on your roof? Check your insurance policy. My insurer does not cover photovoltaic panels on the roof.

I have solar panels for heating water. I recently replaced the roof and the total cost to remove and reinstall the panels was $2,350.

IF I get photovoltaic panels, I'll find a place to install the panels somewhere other than my roof.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
18945 posts
Posted on 4/13/22 at 10:48 am to
For those that have it, how did you determine it was worth the investment?

When I look at my rolling averages over the past 3 years, my max rolling average usage per month was 1,314kWh, with a max of 2,252kWh in September 2020 (Sept 2022 probably would have been higher, but I had 2 weeks of no power)

My max daily usage was 66.86kWh in Oct 2020

My max bill over the last 2 years was $225, and rolling annual costs is in the $1,750 range. I just don't see how the savings would be there, even with tax credits
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
5796 posts
Posted on 4/13/22 at 2:45 pm to
you dont get power during a storm caused outage unless you have a battery wall right?
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