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Mind Blown - Fertilizing Yard with DEF

Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2177 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 9:48 am
The Youtube algorithm suggest a DIY lawncare guy using DEF to fertilize his yard and it worked. Apparently it is mostly Urea, which is the same nitrogen in a bunch of fertilizers. DEF is fairly cheap, so this seems like an inexpensive hack. Someone let me know why this is not a good idea if I am missing something here.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6906 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:00 am to
Yes people do it. I never have. I haven’t looked into it enough to either say it’s fine or it’s not fine.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
12365 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:03 am to
DEF?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19798 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:08 am to
quote:

DEF is fairly cheap, so this seems like an inexpensive hack. Someone let me know why this is not a good idea if I am missing something here.

Why wouldn't you just buy pelletized urea and it's 46-0-0, meaning you're running a reasonable chance for nitrogen burn in your yard.
Posted by Sir Saint
1 post
Member since Jun 2010
5427 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:13 am to
Diesel exhaust fluid
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2281 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Why wouldn't you just buy pelletized urea and it's 46-0-0, meaning you're running a reasonable chance for nitrogen burn in your yard.


This is why most folks don't apply dry urea. Folks like me dissolve the urea in water and then spray it on. During the fall I'll spoon feed and apply 0.25lb/sqft per week.

DEF is an easy way to get urea in small liquid doses. It cost slightly more than dry pellets last time I looked.

PSA: I live in zone 7 with TTTF lawn.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19798 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:49 am to
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DEF is an easy way to get urea in small liquid doses. It cost slightly more than dry pellets last time I looked.

Urea is a tad over $300 a ton. 0 chance you can get nearly a ton of urea via DEF for that ~$300. Each gallon of DEF has almost 3 pounds of urea, so you'd need almost 700 gallons of DEF. Deionized water isn't that great for your yard to justify overpaying this much.

Cheapest bulk DEF I can find on google shopping is a 330 gallon tote for 1375. So $2750 for a tad under a ton of urea this way. That's pretty close to 10x more expensive.
Posted by Marlo Stanfield
Member since Aug 2008
2177 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 10:53 am to
Ok, so when I said cheap, a jug of DEF doesnt cost much and can be found just about anywhere from gas stations, autopart, stores, lowes, etc. So, it is not expensive and very convenient.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3890 posts
Posted on 6/19/23 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Ok, so when I said cheap, a jug of DEF doesnt cost much and can be found just about anywhere from gas stations, autopart, stores, lowes, etc. So, it is not expensive and very convenient.

Convenient. Not necessarily “cheap” compared to regular urea fertilizer.

If you have a small yard and don’t need much fert, then DEF is an acceptable option. It’s effectively the same thing so it’s a common alternative. It’s just not nearly as cheap per lb as buying actual urea fert.
Posted by gerald65
Moss Bluff, LA
Member since Jul 2020
710 posts
Posted on 6/20/23 at 7:04 pm to
My experience using UREA.....

Years ago, I knew a guy in Baton Rouge that worked at a plant the made UREA. He got me a 50 bag. He told me this stuff is really "hot". I mixed the amount he suggested [just a few lbs] in with a whole bag of 8x8x8 for my St Aug lawn.

I carefully spread it out evenly on the lawn. This was probably late April or early May. A couple weeks later the grass greened up good and started to grow.

This started a "love - hate" relations with using UREA. I would cut the grass Saturday morning and it looked great. But by Monday, the grass no longer looked like it had been cut. By Thursday the grass need cutting. By the time I cut it on Saturday it was very thick and I had to rake a lot of the yard after cutting it.

This cycle went on for the next 2 months until the grass growth finally started slowing down.
So if you use UREA, go light with it.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 7:05 pm
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1975 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 10:22 am to
I may try this on some of my underperforming bermuda. I have been putting down some Scott's Lawn Soil in these areas which cost $10 a bag.
This post was edited on 6/22/23 at 10:24 am
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8151 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:33 am to
Here's a secret to those who don't drive diesel trucks that require DEF....get your DEF at a truck stop or Buc-ees. It's a lot cheaper than buying the box.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1975 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Here's a secret to those who don't drive diesel trucks that require DEF....get your DEF at a truck stop or Buc-ees. It's a lot cheaper than buying the box.



Back when I had a diesel motorhome I used the 2.5 gallon jugs from Walmart. It was about $8 a jug two years ago.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8151 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 3:09 pm to
If all you can find is BlueDEF...it's a LOT higher now.

Even generic brand is more than at truck stops.
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