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Modern ceiling fans suck
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:55 am
Posted on 12/16/24 at 8:55 am
TLDR: Help me find a modern design patio rated fan/light combo that I can run with dual switches. A clean design between 50-60 inches and in the 3-400 dollar range. Can even be the prop blade style.
WTF is up with all the new ceiling fans? Looking to replace an Old Jacksonville fan/light combo on the patio. The finish was starting to flake off and the blades sagged. Wish I never trashed it now, after shopping for a replacement.
I like having separate wall switches for the light and fan. All the new fangled ones with DC motors, LED lights, and remote receivers don't allow for dual switch control. Are am I missing something here? Do I have to stick with models that have old style pull switches? Because those are hard to find and there aren't many options.
WTF is up with all the new ceiling fans? Looking to replace an Old Jacksonville fan/light combo on the patio. The finish was starting to flake off and the blades sagged. Wish I never trashed it now, after shopping for a replacement.
I like having separate wall switches for the light and fan. All the new fangled ones with DC motors, LED lights, and remote receivers don't allow for dual switch control. Are am I missing something here? Do I have to stick with models that have old style pull switches? Because those are hard to find and there aren't many options.
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:09 am to TheLSUriot
Home Depot
I feel like there are too many fans that do what you want to do. am I missing something? why can't whatever fans you're looking at be wired with a dual switch configuration?
I feel like there are too many fans that do what you want to do. am I missing something? why can't whatever fans you're looking at be wired with a dual switch configuration?
Posted on 12/16/24 at 9:18 am to TheLSUriot
I have remote controlled ones in 3 of my rooms. I wired all of them to two switches. One controls the fan and one controls the light. I only wired the fan to the remote so once I turn the switch on for the fan technically I can control the speed or turn the fan on/off with the remote. The light is wired directly though and can’t be controlled by the remote. I suppose you could do it the opposite way. But yes it’s possible.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:32 am to LNCHBOX
If you walk into the fan section at Lowes or HD 90+% of the options are remote only. The few that have pull switches looked very dated in comparison, which is why I was asking about modern designs. The 3 blade prop design caught my eye.
That Hampton Bay design isn't too bad. Thanks for the suggestion.
That Hampton Bay design isn't too bad. Thanks for the suggestion.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:34 am to TheLSUriot
You are correct sir.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:50 am to lsugrad35
I've checked dozens of instillation manuals of fans I liked. Most look like this. Yes, both example have fan and a light. I'm not sure how bypassing the receiver module plays out even when there is a noted blue wire on the other side like in the second image.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:59 am to TheLSUriot
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If you walk into the fan section at Lowes or HD 90+% of the options are remote only
I understand your question better now. I just installed a 68" fan inside from HD. It is a remote control unit but can also be controlled by the switch. We didn't use the light kit for it since we have enough light between lamps and can lights, but we have dual switch wiring in place if we wanted to use it that I think would be compatible with my specific fan .
Their in store selection leaves a lot to be desired, I will say that. Would a universal wall switch that has sperate fan and light controls maybe be an option?
Posted on 12/16/24 at 11:17 am to TheLSUriot
It’s been a while, but I think this is what I used for reference (if I’m understanding your question/concern correctly). The manual didn’t have this wiring specifically, but I found it online and it worked.
Fan wiring
Fan wiring
Posted on 12/18/24 at 8:04 am to TheLSUriot
It is fairly simple, the blue wire is power for the light, black is power for the fan, and white is neutral for both. I would be surprised if the instructions did not show a method to bypass the control box to allow you to wire it to replace an older fan with both a light and fan switch.
It would be easy enough to do even if it isn't in the instructions, the only caveat is whether it will affect any warranty.
ETA: lsugrad35 shows a way to wire it where you can use the remote to control either the light or the fan and the switch for the other if that is what you want. I was suggesting just bypassing the remote control unit altogether. But this will not work if you have a DC motor on your fan, I know some do now. If it is a DC motor you have no option but to use the remote module.
It would be easy enough to do even if it isn't in the instructions, the only caveat is whether it will affect any warranty.
ETA: lsugrad35 shows a way to wire it where you can use the remote to control either the light or the fan and the switch for the other if that is what you want. I was suggesting just bypassing the remote control unit altogether. But this will not work if you have a DC motor on your fan, I know some do now. If it is a DC motor you have no option but to use the remote module.
This post was edited on 12/18/24 at 8:16 am
Posted on 12/19/24 at 12:44 am to TheLSUriot
I buy all my fans at Notoco. They sell Quorum fans. I've never found anything better. They make great outdoor fans.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 6:44 am to mdomingue
quote:Then prepare to be surprised my friend. They are barely in legible English and use stock photos for multiple models whether it is accurate or not. Providing multiple wiring options ain't happening 95% of the time.
I would be surprised if the instructions did not show a method to bypass the control box to allow you to wire it to replace an older fan with both a light and fan switch.
Out of 30+ manuals downloaded, only 1 had the secondary wiring option illustrated. It was a Hunter so I gave it a try but that didn't go well. Maybe there was an issue with that fan's internals because it would constantly reset and occasionally trip the breaker. Not worth it!
Thanks for all the help everyone! It cleared up some of my confusion. I am going with a traditional design replacement. Just won't be the look I was going for.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 11:31 am to lsugrad35
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One controls the fan and one controls the light. I only wired the fan to the remote so once I turn the switch on for the fan technically I can control the speed or turn the fan on/off with the remote.
I've done this before too. It's still annoying to use and I still end up losing the remote. I've gone back to buying dumb ceiling fans and won't consider anything with a remote or integrated LED light. It's not worth the headache for "modern" looks.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:30 pm to leftovergumbo
We have Quorum fans w/light in our house. 3-4 have run more or less continuously on low for the last 15 yrs.. (18 ft ceilings) However, one has slowed significantly in the last year. I've read on line that it could be a bad capacitor.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:07 am to LSUDad
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I buy all my fans at Notoco.
No longer locally owned, you should switch stores
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They sell Quorum fans
Low tier, apartment grade stuff for the most part
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:12 pm to TheLSUriot
I have 3 hunters that have been running nonstop for almost 20 years straight. Only turn them off to clean.
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:34 pm to TheLSUriot
Get OG Hunters if you really care about reliability. They’re expensive but that lifetime warranty is legit and they’re bullet proof if you take care of them.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:30 am to TheLSUriot
Hunter all the way
Posted on 12/22/24 at 6:59 am to TheLSUriot
All the fans at Home Depot and Lowes seemed cheap. A friend recommended a locally owned Shreveport store, House of Carpets and Lighting, and they carried higher quality models, including one for the outdoor patio that hasn't drooped despite being out there for a few 100+ summers.
Maybe see if there is a similar store in your area.
Maybe see if there is a similar store in your area.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:14 am to billjamin
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OG Hunters
This is the way.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:05 pm to billjamin
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t lifetime warranty is legit and they’re bullet proof if you take care of them.
What does this involve? My 3 hunters have run continuously for almost 20 years. We only turn them off to wipe the dust from the blades.
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