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re: New central air unit pricing estimate
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:33 pm to CrawDude
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:33 pm to CrawDude
R22 is up to $30 a pound now. I had both inside and outside units changed out 3 years ago(outside 1st next year inside). Good thing I knew about A.C. because he tried to get me to change the whole unit at the time saying he couldn't change the compressor without changing the whole system. I knew that you can put a R410a compressor with a R22 evaporator, just have to vacuum it all out and change a thermostat valve. The next year the evaporator had a leak and had it changed. Cost $10 grand total. Also the labor is cheaper on the outside unit but the inside unit cost less but the labor is doubled. Would not want to be in the attic during the summer like he did.
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:37 pm to CrawDude
Up date, guy pulls up as I’m pulling in today to give estimate on new unit, ok have some questions, ask him about the tech saying it was froze over and low on Freon, told him my wife said he was only up there for a min and she didn’t see him take any tools with him, checks his I pad says he noted that, he explained how if it’s low on Freon and how it goes thru cycles and running constantly and can’t de thaw properly, ok I understand that but why isn’t it draining, that’s why I called you, so they are now coming back tomorrow to clean and check everything like I originally asked for no charge this time because I already paid them yesterday.Then
when I then asked him so what’s the estimate for a new unit he said oh I don’t know it would take me 45 minutes to get that information together. Dude seriously.
when I then asked him so what’s the estimate for a new unit he said oh I don’t know it would take me 45 minutes to get that information together. Dude seriously.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 3:40 pm to CuyahogaTigerJr
Also first asked you really don’t have any r22 … oh we’ll maybe but it’s about $300 a lb
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:49 pm to Clames
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I just had a new Trane 3-ton R410 condenser and coil installed. Paid $5,000 cash.
It's always wild seeing AC threads and cost. You'll see one guy saying 6k, another 14k. I realize they aren't all the same but it's always all over the place.
We have a 5 ton Trane. It's about 12 years old. I hope it lasts another 12 because I'm sure it'll be expensive as hell.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:54 pm to fallguy_1978
Just change that filter
Posted on 6/25/24 at 4:56 pm to CuyahogaTigerJr
Oh yeah, I've been a homeowner for about 20 years. I put a reminder on my calendar to change ours every 60 days on 90 day filters whether they need it or not. Ours has 2. We have pets and they get dirty.
I have the freon checked and the coils cleaned every year too. I like doing it in March or April before everyone else thinks about it.
I have the freon checked and the coils cleaned every year too. I like doing it in March or April before everyone else thinks about it.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:03 pm to CuyahogaTigerJr
If your drip pan is full that's a pretty common problem. You probably have a little PVC with a cap on it next to the unit. Pull the cap off and pour a little drano in it about once per year.
It just get build up in there. Bleach works too usually. There's usually a float in the pan to keep it from flooding your attic if the drain gets clogged.
It just get build up in there. Bleach works too usually. There's usually a float in the pan to keep it from flooding your attic if the drain gets clogged.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 5:03 pm to CuyahogaTigerJr
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CuyahogaTigerJr
I guess by now you realize you need to find a new HVAC company - maybe a small company where the owner with many years of experience gets up in the attic …..
When I last needed R-22, a couple years ago it was it was over $100 per pound, wouldn’t shock me as it has become more scarce, it could be in the range he quoted you. Manufacture of R-22 systems ended in 2010, so R-22 residential systems are near the end of their life span. I think a lot companies just don’t want to mess with them anymore - first thing you need to ask when finding a new company.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 6:56 pm to CrawDude
Do AC companies run deals throughout the year? Like if you replace in the winter vs summer it’s cheaper? We’ll definitely be replacing in the next 2 years. First thought is to just let it die and we replace at that time, but, since we know it’s coming, would it be wise to go ahead and replace in a cheaper part of the year (if that’s possible)
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:23 pm to CuyahogaTigerJr
Just put a new 5 ton 14 SEER Goodman in last week. New outside and coil. Kept the air handler. $7600 installed.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:05 pm to fallguy_1978
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It's always wild seeing AC threads and cost. You'll see one guy saying 6k, another 14k. I realize they aren't all the same but it's always all over the place.
Huge variety in equipment and labor costs. Mine was a pretty straightforward job, everthing easily accessible, with a pretty basic Trane single-stage unit. I also kept the tech and his assistant supplied with ice water, as much as they wanted to drink.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:24 pm to Clames
I was 12k for two new splits, 5 ton and 2.5. New disconnects and new line sets. 5 ton AHU was in a closet, easy. Smaller one was up in an attic, not easy
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:01 pm to TheJunction
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Do AC companies run deals throughout the year? Like if you replace in the winter vs summer it’s cheaper?
All companies have deals in the offseason. If you live in the south it absolutely is cheaper to replace say from January - April and they will run specials. Anytime May-September you're going to get the "get lost" quote because they are slammed.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 9:11 am to Adam4848
Lots of good advice in here, as usual. We had a 2004 Lennox that was R22, fairly new when we bought this house in 2007. It worked fine but was undersized. One of the previous owners had this one put in, but it was a 3.5 ton, and my HVAC guy said it looks like they added the 2 ton Heat Pump for upstairs and went with the 3.5 ton for the downstairs. House was originally ducted for one central unit, and there are still vents from what we call the downstairs A/C in each room upstairs. Fine for most of the year, but in the middle of summer it struggled to keep up, and that is probably why they added a second unit for upstairs.
We had the downstairs serviced a few times, adding a pound or two of R22 every 2-3 years. It finally bit the dust in 2020, and that October we had it replaced with a 4.5 ton Rheem/Ruud with a new gas furnace. Night and day what a properly sized system will do. We paid $7,100 back then for the 4.5 ton, but that did include the larger furnace as and blower inside as well. I don't feel like I got ripped off, and some occasional maintenance like capacitors and inspection/service calls have all been great with this company. We're in the Birmingham area, so prices may differ from where everyone else is, but that was what we paid almost 4 years ago.
We had the downstairs serviced a few times, adding a pound or two of R22 every 2-3 years. It finally bit the dust in 2020, and that October we had it replaced with a 4.5 ton Rheem/Ruud with a new gas furnace. Night and day what a properly sized system will do. We paid $7,100 back then for the 4.5 ton, but that did include the larger furnace as and blower inside as well. I don't feel like I got ripped off, and some occasional maintenance like capacitors and inspection/service calls have all been great with this company. We're in the Birmingham area, so prices may differ from where everyone else is, but that was what we paid almost 4 years ago.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 2:39 pm to TheJunction
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Do AC companies run deals throughout the year? Like if you replace in the winter vs summer it’s cheaper? We’ll definitely be replacing in the next 2 years. First thought is to just let it die and we replace at that time, but, since we know it’s coming, would it be wise to go ahead and replace in a cheaper part of the year (if that’s possible)
People say that many companies will provide discounted prices to replace in the winter vs summer, that just may vary from company to company, you’d just have to ask a sales tech, I really don’t know.
I chose to to have mine replaced in Feb while attic was cool so the workers would have comfortable environment to work in and not be rushed figuring I’d get a better quality job - that was my logic anyway. LOL. I know the workers never had to leave the attic to cool off, only to bring up tools & materials to complete the job.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:06 am to CrawDude
Just got a quote for full system replacement, in line air purifier, adding an additional air return, and replacing all duct work to 15 registers. 5 ton 17 SEER two stage unit. Right around $22k.
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 9:44 am
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:04 pm to LNCHBOX
We’ll plan on replacing ours in January - February. Guess that’ll be our Christmas gift this year. Adulting blows.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:01 pm to LNCHBOX
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eplacing all duct work to 15 registers
Unless your old ducts are leaking air, a good cleaning would suffice. Mine are ancient, but our guy said they were in good shape and no need to replace. That is a labor intensive job, plus materials cost. You could probably cut that estimate in half if you can use existing ductwork.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:32 pm to TU Rob
We got water in at least two of them. Plus whoever installed them didn't hang anyof them so they all have kinks and were stacked on top each other. Duct work is about $5k.
Posted on 6/28/24 at 3:44 pm to CuyahogaTigerJr
You can still get freon on certain websites... they just trying to make money off of you
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