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New water heater cost - Is this high?
Posted on 12/13/24 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 12/13/24 at 5:34 pm
Wanting to proactively replace a nearly 25 year old 80 gallon electric water heater in our condo. Plumber quoting about $6600 for a Ruud ELD 80 gallon, removal of old heater, replacing water pan. Fair or not?
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Posted on 12/13/24 at 5:48 pm to TigerGrl73
Lets see
$1500 for the heater
$500 to remove old
So $4,300 for 3 hours work ?
frick no
$1500 for the heater
$500 to remove old
So $4,300 for 3 hours work ?
frick no
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:18 pm to TigerGrl73
That's a "I really don't want to do this job for you" quote
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:19 pm to TigerGrl73
Should be around $3000 with an expansion tank. There might be some other issues bumping the price like it’s installed in a limited access/tight location. Or he doesn’t want to carry 2 ea 80gallon water heaters without significant compensation. You might not need an 80gallon. Water heaters have improved their performance over the last 25 years.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:47 pm to TigerGrl73
Can you get away from the 80 gal unit?
Units bigger than 50 gallons are considered commercial units now since the energy codes changed a few years ago. So they are built to more stringent codes
An 80 gallon NG water heater is about 3-4x of a residential 50 gallon water heater.
Units bigger than 50 gallons are considered commercial units now since the energy codes changed a few years ago. So they are built to more stringent codes
An 80 gallon NG water heater is about 3-4x of a residential 50 gallon water heater.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 6:53 pm to TigerGrl73
80 gallon for a condo? Good lawd... How many folks you got living there? Price seems way too damn high. You could convert to tankless for less. A basic, 50-g can be had for under $1k.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:05 pm to Goldensammy
We could go 50. The place had 80 when we purchased 14 years ago. The guy probably came in, saw 80, and just assumed he could sell an 80. We aren't even there full time.
I would love tankless but it would have to be electric and I'm pretty sure we would need to add a panel for that. And I'm not sure how that would affect the load on the building. I was under the impression it wouldn't work.
I would love tankless but it would have to be electric and I'm pretty sure we would need to add a panel for that. And I'm not sure how that would affect the load on the building. I was under the impression it wouldn't work.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:33 pm to TigerGrl73
If it is not in the attic and it is accessible without a huge effort, look at DIY. Mine sits in a closet in the basement and one of my sons and I slid the old one out, new one in, slid the old one on a trailer and then hauled it off.
I happen to have the easiest path for replacement.
$6600 sounds really high.
I happen to have the easiest path for replacement.
$6600 sounds really high.
Posted on 12/13/24 at 7:34 pm to TigerGrl73
Cost on that water heater at Menards is about $3K. Plus sales tax and the plumber probably adds 25% or more markup on parts. $6600 is still high.
Where is the condo located?
Where is the condo located?
Posted on 12/13/24 at 8:29 pm to T-Jon
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You might not need an 80gallon. Water heaters have improved their performance over the last 25 years.
Not electric. Basically the same thing. Anyone else saying “just put in on demand” in a condo is fairly clueless, thats not how it works.
I made a similar thread recently. The government bullshite has skyrocketed any water heaters over 50 gallons. A 50 gallon tank is around $600 but a 65-80 is $2500-3000 and that’s from a plumber supply without anything added.
So is $6600 high? Yeah for sure, but $4000 or so is likely reasonable. If it’s 25 years old they should likely replace a lot of the plumbing to and from the tank which in a condo can be a pain.
Plumbers for this type of work have started to just move to ridiculous one price quotes instead of parts plus labor.
This post was edited on 12/13/24 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 12/13/24 at 10:15 pm to baldona
Agree with this. Where is it located as well? I relocated a smaller one iut of my ceiling and had them change to pex
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:05 am to hawgndodge
quote:
That's a "I really don't want to do this job for you" quote
They work in our building for others so I think it's more of a "we know the other owners don't know what things are supposed to cost so why would these people" thing. And it's Nola. So there's that too.
We're going to see what they say about a smaller unit.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:39 am to TigerGrl73
80s were standard in the 90s as, why not?
The question about an 80 is how many are going to routinely shower in a similar time? Do you have any large tubs to fill? If you have a large tub a 50 won’t suffice.
I’ve been involved with family members replacing some 80s with a 50+ booster and they really aren’t very good. Multiple plumbers told us otherwise, so just an fyi it’s not an ideal option.
ETA: if you have the space, it’s not out of question to do 2 -40s or 2 -50s.
The question about an 80 is how many are going to routinely shower in a similar time? Do you have any large tubs to fill? If you have a large tub a 50 won’t suffice.
I’ve been involved with family members replacing some 80s with a 50+ booster and they really aren’t very good. Multiple plumbers told us otherwise, so just an fyi it’s not an ideal option.
ETA: if you have the space, it’s not out of question to do 2 -40s or 2 -50s.
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 6:41 am
Posted on 12/14/24 at 9:44 am to TigerGrl73
If you had natural gas I'd recommend a tankless at that cost. Electric tankless are not efficient enough to consider, IMO. I'd do it myself before I'd pay $500 an hour for labor because that's what that quote is.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 10:07 am to TigerGrl73
Yes, that sounds high. But it is also an extra large water heater, and there may be some issues that make the installation more difficult
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:47 pm to dalefla
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Electric tankless are not efficient enough to consider, IMO
All electric heaters are 100% efficient bc 100% of the power going into them is converted to heat.
But I know your point: they use a lot of electricity, and NG is cheaper to operate.
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