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Polymeric Sand as flagstone joint filler

Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6421 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:09 pm
Anyone used polymeric sand before? I'm putting in a flagstone walkway and thought I wanted to use polymeric sand to fill the joints, but after reading, then watching some videos, I don't like the repercussions if it doesn't go right. Is decomposed granite the other option outside of concrete or some sort of cementitious compound? I've got a 3" cushion sand base.
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7108 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:31 pm to
It is critical that you get it off the stones before wetting with a broom and leaf blower, or you will have hazing.

Some people love it, I wouldn’t use it.

Edited to add to read instructions thoroughly in regard to spacing requirements… so many butt pavers and try to use poly sand.
This post was edited on 5/1/23 at 2:33 pm
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
6549 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:35 pm to
I used it between square/rectangle pavers on my patio and have been happy. The gap is tight though. The areas along my edging and areas that have bigger gaps, I don't think it's the best. I'm not sure it ever gets very hard. It always seemed slightly rubbery in big patches.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
819 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:46 pm to
I've had it used professionally on antique brick, flagstone and gray pavers. The bricks lost a lot of color due to a haze that's taken 2 years of scrubbing to remove. The brand was "haze free". The rubbery joint fillings on flagstone washed up and out with a year. The pavers went down in Feb this year and look good so far. So, results vary. It seems best if there is a good color match and an initial tight joint.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
40629 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 4:02 pm to
I would use DG. You can get DG in the buff color and in a cold gray. I've seen DG is green, pink, dark brown and gold but its tough to find.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6421 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

I would use DG. You can get DG in the buff color and in a cold gray. I've seen DG is green, pink, dark brown and gold but its tough to find.


I think this is the route I’m going to go. I can handle patching DG. I’ve done a lot of big projects and not a whole lot concerns me with anything more than getting walking surfaces right. The only thing I’ve ever screwed up beyond my ability to repair has been concrete. We poured a 400 sq ft pad and it turned out terrible. I don’t like solutions where the fix for a mistake is more work than the initial work.
Posted by Roll on Tigers
Across the Border
Member since Jul 2013
4508 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:01 pm to
Depending on how large you want your joints to be kind of determines what type of poly sand to get. There are some brands out there meant for larger gaps, some for smaller gaps.

I do/have done a good bit of hard scaping
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13820 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 11:05 pm to
If the flagstones are tight/minimal gap in joints, I would just use paver sand. If larger gaps, I would go with pea gravel.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6421 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:44 am to
quote:

If the flagstones are tight/minimal gap in joints, I would just use paver sand. If larger gaps, I would go with pea gravel.



I'm guessing in order to keep the gaps tight you have to do a lot of cutting/ chiseling to get the pieces to fit together properly?
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31386 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 12:44 pm to
We had it put between some travertine stones in our backyard and after the first rain half of it washed away.

How does the sand morph?

Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16881 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 4:34 am to
OP, look up a product called WetLok. It’s a type of Poly Sand that you can apply wet. That’s what I have switched to using on most of our Hardscape projects.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6421 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 9:12 am to
I just looked that up, and it looks promising. You see any concerns on using it on this walkway? It's available at the material supplier I got the flagstone at.

I really wish I would have used Decomposed Granite as the base, but the sand compacted pretty good.

Here is a picture of the project so far. Sod is being delivered and laid next week.

This post was edited on 5/3/23 at 9:14 am
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31386 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:48 am to
What was our poly sand supposed to do?

Turn into a mortar type of product?

The guy was using a broom to push it in between the tiles.

Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3928 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:51 am to
I used decomposed granite. Lasts a long time and looks good
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6421 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

I used decomposed granite. Lasts a long time and looks good


I've decided this is what I'm going to use. I'm about to go pick up a half a yard of it. I don't think it'll even use that much. It took 1.75 yards of sand to lay a solid 2.5" base in it. I'm guessing a half yard load will fill it in nicely. I'll get pictures of it when I'm done. I do appreciate all of the responses.
Posted by HoLeInOnEr05
Middle of the fairway
Member since Aug 2011
16881 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 10:16 pm to
Regular Poly is supposed to be applied dry. Any moisture at all, and it won’t set up correctly. Once it’s swept in, and compacted, then you wet it so that it will harden/cure. Poly is not a replacement for mortar, as it will typically need to be redone every 5 or so yrs.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6421 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:43 am to
Here is the pseudo finished product. I'm going to sweep over it again another time or two with more Decomposed Granite.

Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14513 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 1:35 pm to
We're making a 11 x 20 flagstone sitting area with DG. We've put out a truck load and will wet it down and tamp it this evening. It's been easy to work with so far. Bought it by the cubic yard and filled my truck bed for 130.00.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3928 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 3:10 pm to
Looks nice, good match with your flagstone, I love flagstone

Also, the extra will come in handy for touch ups.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 3:13 pm
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