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Satsuma and navel orange trees

Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:50 am
Posted by Sixafan
Member since Aug 2023
947 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:50 am
What are the best species for Lafayette area north of I-10?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15312 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 9:56 am to
I had an owari satsuma tree for three years that never got over 3 feet tall. I replaced it with an Arctic Frost. I’ve also heard good things about Miho.

I don’t know much about naval orange varieties.

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Lafayette area north of I-10?


Go talk to the good folks at Lastrapes Garden Center in Opelousas. They have a good selection and know their stuff!
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
17817 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 11:35 am to
Whatever type you decide to go with-----keep them watered when in drought conditions.

My neighbor called me a couple days ago and asked if I'd like some satsumas, and they are generally nice and full of juice and flavor and extremely easy to peel.

Well, they still peel easily, but are dry as dust on the inside due to not watering the trees when they were producing while in a long term drought.

It did rain hard for a few hours 2 nights ago, but not in time to save the crop from the looks of it.

I swear, I couldn't get 2 oz. of juice out of a satsuma as big as a baseball if I tried.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4154 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 12:16 pm to
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What are the best species for Lafayette area north of I-10?
Whatever varieties they sell in any given area are ok in that area. They cannot sell varieties that aren’t “ok” for that area. (The correct word for “ok” escapes me)
Posted by Popths
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
4278 posts
Posted on 12/6/23 at 7:40 am to
Owari satsuma
Washington navel
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9720 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Owari satsuma
Washington nave


Louisiana Sweet Orange
Hamlin sweet orange

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Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21465 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:38 am to


In 9a, you can get away with satsumas (owari, arctic frost, brown select, etc) and kumquats without much if any cold protection except for the coldest nights. You may need to protect more attentively in the first couple of years until they become established.

The Washington navel will also work here, but they are a little more cold sensitive and have to be protected until they are nice and mature before you can really feel safe. A lot of 5-6 year old trees got killed by the freeze last year. The 10-15 year old trees made out fine. I'm currently raising a 3 year old cara cara navel, which is just a mutant line of the Washington navel.

Meyer lemon can be grown here but don't even try it unless you are willing to adopt a pesticide regimen and cold protect anytime the temperature gets near freezing. Even if it does survive an unprotected freeze, it will decimate the foliage and will not fruit the next year. My 6 year old Meyer gets covered with a tarp with a heat lamp underneath anytime the forecast calls for temps below 35. In the past 2 seasons, I had one night each where I covered it but with no heat lamp (used incandescent Christmas lights instead) and temps dipped into the low 20s. Lost all foliage and no fruit in 2022 and only about 5 in 2023. Don't use the Christmas lights for the lemon. It's not enough heat for 9a freezes. When properly protected I get hundreds of lemons. The pests also love Meyer lemon leaves more than any other citrus. Stock up on pyrethein concentrate, neem concentrate, spinosad concentrate, and a copper antifungal. I even keep a bottle of malathion and imidacloprid for nastier infestations.

For all of these, make sure to adopt a fertilizer schedule. They are heavy feeders and need lots of food, but at the right times of year. I recommend growing all of these on a grafted dwarfing and cold tolerant root stock. It adds significant cold protection and keeps the trees small enough to protect during those first 5-7 years in the ground. My neighbor had a beautiful Washington navel on its own roots that was 15 feet tall and loaded with oranges. Probably a 25 or 30 year old tree. 2020 polar vortex got it. No way to protect something that big and if the right freeze lasts long enough, it will kill them. You can really mitigate the cold by growing on the south side of your house and close to the side of the home.

The easiest thing to do is just plant an owari satsuma, but that's what everyone does. Choose wisely and have fun.
This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 10:12 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
21465 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Louisiana Sweet Orange
Hamlin sweet orange

Yeah these guys are not as cold hardy as advertised in my experience. Also very very pest prone. The people I know who are having success with them live way down da Bayou in zone 9b or 10a.
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