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too late to fertilize grass?
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:58 pm
Hi all. I have centipede grass and am in southeast Louisiana. My grass has not been growing vigorously at all, even though I fertilized back in the spring. I got a soil test done a couple of weeks ago and my soil is nitrogen deficient. Is it too late in the year to fertilize again? I would be using Scott's triple action (29-0-10) or Fertilome centipede fertilizer (15-0-15) depending on what I can find available locally.
I have already put out pre-emergent.
I have already put out pre-emergent.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:59 pm to atom1505
its never to late if using milorganite
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:00 pm to Fore III73
I thought about giving that a shot, but I can't find any locally.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:02 pm to Fore III73
Thanks. I'll check them out.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:16 pm to atom1505
This is the LSU AgCenter’s recommendation for this time of the year. Winterizing Your Lawn
Who conducted your soil test because nitrogen is not included in a LSU AgCenter soil test nor usually any other university’s soil test analysis for lawn, landscape or crop management for the following reason
“Nitrogen recommendations are not based on a routine soil analysis. This is due to the many climatic, chemical and biological factors that influence the amount of nitrogen present in a soil at any given time. Instead of a soil analysis, nitrogen recommendations are based on research results from field experiments to determine the best application rate to attain optimum growing conditions for selected crops. All soil test reports provide standardized annual nitrogen recommendations based on current research.”.
Who conducted your soil test because nitrogen is not included in a LSU AgCenter soil test nor usually any other university’s soil test analysis for lawn, landscape or crop management for the following reason
“Nitrogen recommendations are not based on a routine soil analysis. This is due to the many climatic, chemical and biological factors that influence the amount of nitrogen present in a soil at any given time. Instead of a soil analysis, nitrogen recommendations are based on research results from field experiments to determine the best application rate to attain optimum growing conditions for selected crops. All soil test reports provide standardized annual nitrogen recommendations based on current research.”.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 4:44 pm to atom1505
Be careful with centipede, there is a reason they call it the "lazy man's grass." You can easily wipe out a centipede lawn by over fertilizing and by its nature, it is a slow growing grass type. I almost nuked my lawn in Florida trying to push centipede.
If all you need is nitrogen then you could go with milo like another poster stated above. I also only found it at HD. Get their app or look on the website to see if they have it in stock.
If all you need is nitrogen then you could go with milo like another poster stated above. I also only found it at HD. Get their app or look on the website to see if they have it in stock.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 7:46 am to atom1505
LSU Ag school recommends not using nitrogen after early August. That would include milorganite or anything with nitrogen.
This post was edited on 9/24/19 at 7:48 am
Posted on 9/24/19 at 8:28 am to atom1505
Too late to fertilize. End of August is the cut off for South Louisiana.
Posted on 9/24/19 at 10:11 pm to atom1505
You cannot go wrong with Milorganite. You don't have to water it in, it won't burn your lawn, and I promise you that your grass will grow green and thick. It will grow so well that you will almost be sorry you used it. It's currently the time to apply a final time before winter on their recommended schedule, so it's a good time to go ahead and get some.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:27 am to b-rab2
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Why I wonder.
You'd have to dig into their studies posted on the LSU ag school website. My guess is that you don't want the grass going to sleep on a full stomach.
Or maybe nitrogen pushes weeds at that time and has no benefit to the grass. I'm not a warm season grass guy so I can't really help on this. Sorry.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:04 am to b-rab2
Late season fertilization (especially with nitrogen) promotes growth. This new growth late in the year can be damaged easily by cold weather.
Everything I've read from LSUAgcenter says the products marketed to "winterize" your lawn does more harm that good. Late August should be the last time you apply fertilizer in South Louisiana.
As the weather cools, take care of the weeds in your lawn and stay on top of fungi. Then enjoy a full green-up next spring.
Everything I've read from LSUAgcenter says the products marketed to "winterize" your lawn does more harm that good. Late August should be the last time you apply fertilizer in South Louisiana.
As the weather cools, take care of the weeds in your lawn and stay on top of fungi. Then enjoy a full green-up next spring.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:34 am to RealityTiger
This is a quote from the milorganite website “Centipedegrass and Bahia grass prefer spring and summer feedings, and to help prevent winterkill, avoid fertilizing these varieties in the fall.”. LINK. The OP stated he has a centipede lawn. Centipede is far more sensitive, health wise, to excess nitrogen fertilization than St Aug or Bermuda.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 12:22 pm to CrawDude
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This is a quote from the milorganite website “Centipedegrass and Bahia grass prefer spring and summer feedings, and to help prevent winterkill, avoid fertilizing these varieties in the fall.”. LINK. The OP stated he has a centipede lawn. Centipede is far more sensitive, health wise, to excess nitrogen fertilization than St Aug or Bermuda.
Everything seems to be in agreement that now would be too late for nitrogen. It is always nice when several different perspectives have the same recommendations.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 8:00 pm to CrawDude
I'm not challenging that information. But we truly do not have a fall here. We usually have it for a week or two, and then winter. I mean shite, we're still very much in the 90s in South Louisiana. I don't think it would do any damage to his lawn if he applied it. The schedule I was talking about was also directly from milorganite, as was this information:
quote:I don't foresee a killing frost one month from now. It might get a little bit chilly at night, but not enough to make the grass go dormant.
The last time to fertilize, warm-season grasses, in fall is one month before dormancy or the average first killing frost.
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When to Apply Application Rate
Easter 32 lbs per 2,500 sq ft
Memorial Day, end of May 32 lbs per 2,500 sq ft
Labor Day, early September 32 lbs per 2,500 sq ft
Early October (or when overseeding)* 32 lbs per 2,500 sq ft
Posted on 9/26/19 at 8:31 am to RealityTiger
Actually, not having a true fall is a big reason not to fertilize late in the year. Our turf grass does not have time to slowly go dormant like other climates....it basically grows until frost. If you promote fresh new growth with nitrogen fertilizer, that can be killed with a good frost or early freeze.
I don't think its a big deal either way, but applying fertilizer after the end of August is not recommended. LSU AgCenter knows a lot more about plants, grass, etc. than a few folks on a message board. Their recommendations are based off of experience and research here in Louisiana.
I don't think its a big deal either way, but applying fertilizer after the end of August is not recommended. LSU AgCenter knows a lot more about plants, grass, etc. than a few folks on a message board. Their recommendations are based off of experience and research here in Louisiana.
Posted on 9/26/19 at 10:09 am to sosaysmorvant
Well, I put down 1.5x the recommended Milorganite, so I'll let you know if my yard blows up
. It looks so bad right now that I couldn't wait. My reading here suggests my order was a little backwards, but now I'm going to focus on killing the broad leaf leaves.

Posted on 9/27/19 at 6:54 am to Fore III73
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Milorganite
I'm not familiar with this product.
From the slight bit of research I've done, this sounds like a pretty good product.
For the past few years I have dealt with a chinch bug problem in my Saint Augustine grass starting in August. About 2 years ago I started using TruGreen for year-round service
To help bring my yard back from the dead. The first year I used them my yard looked fantastic. This past year it does not look near as good ( my yard looks identical to my neighbor's yard Who Don't Do Anything other than mow)... I think I can do just as good a job or better on my own..
I think I'll start with routine
Milorganite applications in the spring after I dethatch.
This post was edited on 9/27/19 at 6:59 am
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