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Turf Gurus -Common Lespedeza Treatment

Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:50 am
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11387 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:50 am
My lawn is about to be taken over with this weed.

Any suggestions on products to use?

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Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4372 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:25 am to
i used a combo of MSM and celcius last year. took two applications but it worked. search this site. Ronk has answered this question a ton of times
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84129 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:31 am to
I used the hose type Image for Southern Lawns and it has done very well.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18002 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:34 am to
Seems early for that. I had bad patches last year. Pulled most of them up by hand. One patch will taper down to one root
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
Location: Classified
Member since Nov 2011
35151 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:50 am to
quote:

i used a combo of MSM and celcius last year. took two applications but it worked


Is it not too hot for MSM?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5596 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:58 pm to
Yes, at this time either the first one listed on the fact sheet, which is MSM Turf or Manor, or the 4th one listed which is Celsius. I do believe as stated ronk has mentioned combining those two together b/c in some areas lespedeza has shown some herbicide resistance but I’ve not personally found that to be case in my lawn.

Though the label on MSM Turf does say not to use at temps exceeding 85 F, in speaking to turf specialist more knowledgeable than me, it is safe to use into the low 90s but you must be careful not to overmix or overspray, and I’ve used it in the low 90s without issue. You may get yellowing of the surrounding lawn grass but it will recover. But I’ve also made the mistake in over spot spraying in high heat with MSM Turf and killed some surrounding centipede.

I have some lespedeza I noticed yesterday, when cutting grass, that I need to spray - I’ll use Celsius.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13996 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 1:00 pm to
What kind of grass do you have?
Posted by Sir Saint
1 post
Member since Jun 2010
5427 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 1:05 pm to
MSM Turf alone will nuke Lespedeza. Mixing with Celsius probably overkill IMO. For me, I've never needed to apply more than 1 application either - my guess is that people are not waiting long enough (4+ weeks) for the MSM turf to kill the plant.

Mix 1/8th teaspoon of MSM turf plus a splash of surfactant per gallon of water in pump sprayer (pro-tip, MSM turf granules don't dissolve super easy, I usually mix with water in a gatorade bottle first, ensure all granules dissolved then dump into sprayer). Spray lespedeza and wait, wait, wait. You should see evidence of plant injury by week 2-3.
Posted by Tigerbait1233
Member since Jun 2016
39 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 5:16 pm to
I sprayed image and it knocked it out quickly. Only problem, where it was i'm left with dead spots. What do i do about about that?
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2096 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 5:50 pm to
How has your nitrogen fertilization program been?
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11387 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:21 pm to
Grass is St. Augustine and centipede.

When appling these chemicals, do I have to worry about spraying under the drip line of shade trees? Any other cautions?

My yard is 1 acre and a pump sprayer doesn't sound like the best option.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 9:28 pm
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6903 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:32 pm to
Always start with one herbicide and only mix 2 if needed. Some weeds are showing resistance to the primary herbicide used to kill it. Lespedeza to msm or Celsius, spotted spurge to Celsius, and poa to atrazine.

Celsius and msm together will 90% of the time yellow your lawn. A good practice is to line up your spraying within a couple days of your ferting. This can help push growth and you can mow the yellow off.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13996 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:12 am to
I would start with celsius medium rate with a surfactant. Make two applications two weeks apart. It might seem like it did nothing and is taking forever but one day you’ll walk in the yard and you won’t see the weeds.

I would take EXTREME caution using msm. It is difficult to mix in small amounts and you can very easily smoke your yard if you aren’t experienced in application of herbicides.

If it’s not a ton it’s actually kinda fun and therapeutic to pull.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 5:43 am
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18002 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:24 am to
quote:

If it’s not a ton it’s actually kinda fun and therapeutic to pull.


Ha that’s what I was talking about. Comes out as one clean root. Last summer I just sat in the yard and pulled them all up. Felt good
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