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what herbicide is best for creating a permanant nothing grows there zone?
Posted on 3/22/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/22/20 at 2:28 pm
has anyone tried RM43 43% Glyphosate Plus Weed Preventer Total Vegetation Control from home depot and does it work good?
i want to create a radioactive wasteland under my house so weeds will never ever return. i tried roundup and that only reduces the weeds it doesnt kill them, i also tried straight gas which works the best but the wees are back again in a week or two, i tried straight diesel and even 50/50 diesel mixed with used motor oil and it just leaves oily film on ground while the weeds still grow back
if the DEQ wouldnt come arrest me i would put toxic nuclear waste under there if it did the job but seriously, i need shite that dont play and weeds never return
what say you experts of horticulture? help me out here and TIA
i want to create a radioactive wasteland under my house so weeds will never ever return. i tried roundup and that only reduces the weeds it doesnt kill them, i also tried straight gas which works the best but the wees are back again in a week or two, i tried straight diesel and even 50/50 diesel mixed with used motor oil and it just leaves oily film on ground while the weeds still grow back
if the DEQ wouldnt come arrest me i would put toxic nuclear waste under there if it did the job but seriously, i need shite that dont play and weeds never return
what say you experts of horticulture? help me out here and TIA
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 3/22/20 at 2:37 pm to ronk
Rm, oust, and diesel
is that in order of what you think works best?
is that in order of what you think works best?
Posted on 3/22/20 at 2:40 pm to keakar
keakar, how much is your house raised that you have sufficient light that weeds grow underneath it? What kind of weeds.
Salt is a pretty good retardant to suppress plant growth - I’m kind of kidding and kind of not. You could sterilize the soil for weed growth with enough salt. Wouldn’t do it with metal piping under the house.
There are some pretty strong commercial use herbicides that might do a job. Need someone like Gamecocks22 to read this and share his knowledge.
Salt is a pretty good retardant to suppress plant growth - I’m kind of kidding and kind of not. You could sterilize the soil for weed growth with enough salt. Wouldn’t do it with metal piping under the house.
There are some pretty strong commercial use herbicides that might do a job. Need someone like Gamecocks22 to read this and share his knowledge.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 2:43 pm to keakar
Yep, Oust is one of herbicides used on right-of-ways, pipelines, etc. There are others.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 2:44 pm to CrawDude
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keakar, how much is your house raised that you have sufficient light that weeds grow underneath it? What kind of weeds.
its bad, its 4ft if not a few inches higher and its growing weeds like crazy like you find in the brushy areas in the woods. its those vine like weeds where you pull and it comes out as 5-6 ft lengths of vines
i use a stiff rake to pull most of it out and then treat it but i cant really find anything thats more then a temporary growth stunt for it and by week 3 its back in full bloom again
it fricking grows faster under the house then the grass in my yard does because its always damp under there being slightly lower then the rest of the yard
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 3/22/20 at 3:03 pm to keakar
I’ve used Oust XP around a drainage ditch behind my house. It worked on everything grassy. Any vines I had to pull by hand and dig out the root
Posted on 3/22/20 at 3:28 pm to keakar
Bushy vines like in the woods - you can try repeated applications of trichlopyr - it’s a herbicide formulated for that purpose. Often sold as bush and vine killer.
Sold under different brand names, but for your needs you want one with a high % of trichlopyr as the active ingredient, like 50+% The home use versions have like 8.8% but even it works good. Should be carried by a good hardware stores with an ag orientation, or Ag feed stores, maybe even Tractor Supply.
It’s likely going to take some repeated applications, to translocate to the roots to kill the vines permanently. So you will kill it above ground initially, it will come back from the roots, and spray it again. Eventually you’ll kill the entire root system. I’d be surprised if that doesn’t work for you.
You might want add surfactant to the solution to increase absorption - I don’t know if concentrated forms have surfactant incorporated or not.
Sold under different brand names, but for your needs you want one with a high % of trichlopyr as the active ingredient, like 50+% The home use versions have like 8.8% but even it works good. Should be carried by a good hardware stores with an ag orientation, or Ag feed stores, maybe even Tractor Supply.
It’s likely going to take some repeated applications, to translocate to the roots to kill the vines permanently. So you will kill it above ground initially, it will come back from the roots, and spray it again. Eventually you’ll kill the entire root system. I’d be surprised if that doesn’t work for you.
You might want add surfactant to the solution to increase absorption - I don’t know if concentrated forms have surfactant incorporated or not.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 3/22/20 at 6:29 pm to CrawDude
thanks
more vine like then bushy, thinking of ivy, but they do grow about 15-18" high and there is a few tree sprouts and regular weed grasses mixed in
im at my wits end and was even wondering it its worth it to pour a 2" concrete slab under the house so i dont have to constantly deal with the weeds.
im OCD and want it to look clean so i dont want to keep fighting with them all the time so i wish there was something toxic enough to stop anything from growing for 25 years
more vine like then bushy, thinking of ivy, but they do grow about 15-18" high and there is a few tree sprouts and regular weed grasses mixed in
im at my wits end and was even wondering it its worth it to pour a 2" concrete slab under the house so i dont have to constantly deal with the weeds.
im OCD and want it to look clean so i dont want to keep fighting with them all the time so i wish there was something toxic enough to stop anything from growing for 25 years
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:58 pm to keakar
Does the vine happen to look like this? Virginia creeper. Or look like something else. 

Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:06 pm to keakar
You aren't going to stop vegetation from growing there if it's getting the elements required for life. If you stop sunlight, water, air, or nutrients from getting under your house, you will stop vegetation. Obviously, sunlight is probably the only realistic one to stop. Would be very helpful to know what the setup is under your house.
have you tried weed barrier or other means to physically block growth as opposed to chemicals? I have a conventional foundation and have never had any growth under my house.
you can also increase soil acidity to prevent weed growth by using pine straw, etc.
have you tried weed barrier or other means to physically block growth as opposed to chemicals? I have a conventional foundation and have never had any growth under my house.
quote:I have used Eliminator Weed & Grass Killer Super Concentrate, 32 fl oz from walmart for over 15 years around my yard. Never had to reapply in less than 6 weeks. Get the super concentrate; stronger than regular concentrated formula.
, i also tried straight gas which works the best but the wees are back again in a week or two, i tried straight diesel and even 50/50 diesel mixed with used motor oil and it just leaves oily film on ground while the weeds still grow back
you can also increase soil acidity to prevent weed growth by using pine straw, etc.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:06 pm to CrawDude
looks more like a mix of these two
with regular weed grass mixed in like this


with regular weed grass mixed in like this

Posted on 3/23/20 at 5:11 pm to arcalades
quote:
You aren't going to stop vegetation from growing there if it's getting the elements required for life. If you stop sunlight, water, air, or nutrients from getting under your house, you will stop vegetation. Obviously, sunlight is probably the only realistic one to stop. Would be very helpful to know what the setup is under your house.
have you tried weed barrier or other means to physically block growth as opposed to chemicals? I have a conventional foundation and have never had any growth under my house.
its high and well ventilated but it gets lots of sun while the ground stays damp for days after a rain
if i block the sunlight im afraid i'll create a termite heaven by giving them cover since sunlight is the biggest deterrent that keeps them away
Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:06 pm to arcalades
quote:
I have used Eliminator Weed & Grass Killer Super Concentrate, 32 fl oz from walmart for over 15 years around my yard. Never had to reapply in less than 6 weeks. Get the super concentrate; stronger than regular concentrated formula.
thats what i use as well for the yard around fence lines and driveway, i mix it double the recommended strength and find it works even better then roundup and it costs less money then roundup
i couldnt get the RM43 because HD said it was an oder only product. so i bought the bioadvanced brush killer made for vines and shrubs LINK
i spent hours pulling vines and tree sprouts out and then sprayed the whole gallon under the house. from what i understand it takes days to see results but is supposed to work well. i'll see what results i get then order the RM43 if im not happy with it
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:18 pm to cgrand
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ice cream salt
what??????????????
you mean rock salt? i havent heard that its a weed killer, my aunt dumped some on my dads oak tree and it acted like fertilizer for it having a growth spurt
seriously, i'll try anything if it works, i wasnt joking about using nuke waste, i just dont want to waste time with mild type weed killers, i need serious death dealing stuff
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 5:00 pm to keakar
did you not pay attention in ancient history class?
the romans defeated the Carthaginians and salted the earth of Carthage so that nothing would grow. I guarantee you if you smother the area under your house with rock salt nothing will grow there
the romans defeated the Carthaginians and salted the earth of Carthage so that nothing would grow. I guarantee you if you smother the area under your house with rock salt nothing will grow there
Posted on 4/11/20 at 5:28 pm to cgrand
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I guarantee you if you smother the area under your house with rock salt nothing will grow there
i got no issues if it works but thats 900 sq ft of area
who sells large truckloads of rocksalt?
Posted on 4/11/20 at 6:02 pm to keakar
Sahara, Hyvar-X, or Diuron.
This will all kill trees if you spray under their drip line.
Diuron is a 12 month pre-emergent used in conjunction with other burn downs in industrial sites, like power substations.
The weed you have appears to be cats claw. A heavy dose of triclopyr will remedy that problem. Imazapyr will also work.
Anything that spreads vegetatively can grow back under your house. So you will probably end up spraying every 4-6 months if you want it bare.
This will all kill trees if you spray under their drip line.
Diuron is a 12 month pre-emergent used in conjunction with other burn downs in industrial sites, like power substations.
The weed you have appears to be cats claw. A heavy dose of triclopyr will remedy that problem. Imazapyr will also work.
Anything that spreads vegetatively can grow back under your house. So you will probably end up spraying every 4-6 months if you want it bare.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 6:09 pm to keakar
Salt will work, but it also doesn’t magically stay put under your house. It will dissolve and create salty runoff which may kill any foundation plants, your nearby lawn, and can definitely kill trees.
Have you never seen any of the “ghost forests” along the Gulf Coast where stands of live oak were killed by saltwater storm surge during tropical weather? While live oaks are remarkably salt tolerant, they will not thrive in seawater strength water for more than a week or two.
Have you never seen any of the “ghost forests” along the Gulf Coast where stands of live oak were killed by saltwater storm surge during tropical weather? While live oaks are remarkably salt tolerant, they will not thrive in seawater strength water for more than a week or two.
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