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What soil mixture do you use for starting raised garden beds?

Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:07 pm
Posted by Dingleberry Dan
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:07 pm
Will be filling two new 4’ x 8’ cinder block raised beds soon, trying to decide how to do this in the most cost-effective manner while still ensuring good outcomes. I’m thinking buying in bulk will probably be the best option, but I’m a little skeptical of the quality of soil I’ll be getting. Filling some of the bottom of the bed with organic material seems to work well. What method works for you?
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
60579 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:06 pm to
Many nurseries have a bed mix. They use mulch and sand. Already mixed for you. Dump it in.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5768 posts
Posted on 3/22/23 at 11:26 pm to
Quality mix and price are proportionately related. The best you can do is 1/3 peat moss/pro mix, 1/3 compost, and 1/3 vermiculite. But it is not cheap.

The cheapest you can do is likely some bulk raised bed mix. You will get a lot of sand though and the soil will be heavier, not drain as well, and generally be less productive without amending it.

For raised beds, you are really looking for planting mix as opposed to soil.
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 11:27 pm
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
27413 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:38 am to
If you're buying the individual bags mix in Top Soil, Peat Moss, Compost and Perlite.
Posted by RushHour
East Texas
Member since Dec 2018
101 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:04 am to
I buy from a place local to me that sells a "raised bed blend" for $60/cu yard.

Blend of Aged Pine Bark, Compost, and sand.

LINK

You might have a similar place near you.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
42983 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:10 am to
I mix rotted bark, sand and peat moss
from two piles plus bags of the peat moss. Occasionally I’ll mix in osmocote is if have it
Posted by nated14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
919 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 6:26 am to
This is what I've done with really no scientific reason. I've used a mixture of Peat Humus, topsoil, potting soil, and garden mixture. I top the garden each year with a dressing of cheap shredded mulch and at the end of the season till that into the bed. I amend the soil every year by adding humus and garden mix. I'm in my 12th year with this and I have no complaints and have been able to grow all that I have tried except orange and yellow belle peppers. Lastly, When I catch a few bream in the pond, I add the heads to the garden.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5594 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 8:06 am to


I’ve used something similar to this with good results for years. The 1/2 yd of Cleggs Raided Bed Blend is what many retail plant centers sell in bulk, or bag, as “garden soil” or “top soil” which 100% composted forest products with sand mixed in to provide bulk and assist in drainage - it has no mineral soil per se - I.e., silt and clay. I have a free source of composed farm animal manure that I use in place of some of the other amendments listed.
Posted by labguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2020
287 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:16 am to
Google Mel's Mix. This is the way to go. It's what I use in my raised beds. 1/3 peat, 1/3 vermiculite and 1/3 blended compost. Can't go wrong. I never had much luck with those bulk blended soils that nurseries sell.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
60579 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:21 am to
I had to deliver a load of river silt yesterday to two places. I have a 6X10 dump trailer. My cousin owns a dirt/silt pit, south of the new bridge in West Baton Rouge Parish. He has a number of trucks, when the rivers down, he moves it from the river side, over the levee. When the rivers up, he’s sitting on tons of silt.

Depends on how much you need, a dump trailer is quick and easy.
Posted by Dingleberry Dan
Member since Mar 2016
16 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:46 pm to
This is what I wanted to do initially, but is vermiculite crazy expensive or is it just me? All I can find are 8 quart bags that are $8+. To do 1/3 vermiculite in one 4x8’ raised bed would need a little more than 6 cubic feet of vermiculite (~$200 at least). Is my math totally off or is this just something I’m going to have to come to terms with?
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 9:47 pm
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5768 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:14 pm to
You can find it in 4 cubic foot bags. Not sure where you are, but O’Keefe’s in Covington had 4ft^3 bags for $40 a few days ago. Cleggs should as well. Check feed stores or co-ops. You want coarse vermiculite - not fine.

quote:

Google Mel's Mix. This is the way to go. It's what I use in my raised beds. 1/3 peat, 1/3 vermiculite and 1/3 blended compost. Can't go wrong. I never had much luck with those bulk blended soils that nurseries sell


Same. That’s what it was referencing in my post as well. It is expensive, but it works incredibly well so it’s worth the money to me.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 11:16 pm
Posted by labguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2020
287 posts
Posted on 3/24/23 at 11:19 am to
Clegg's has the vermiculite. A large bag for $50. You could probably get by with 1 bag for each bed. I purchased one there recently to sweeten up my beds. I have two 4 x 8 raised beds also filled with Mel's mix.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1973 posts
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:07 am to
I did a 4' x 8' cinder block garden last year. I used a mixture of garden soil and raised garden soil mix which was all in bags. This worked well for my wife to grow tomatoes, cucumbers and peppers. I plan on planting some red onions in the cinder block cells in a week or so.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84111 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

For raised beds, you are really looking for planting mix as opposed to soil.


I have 3 new ones I need to fill. Fads and Frames has all their bags on clearance, and what's left are topsoil(it's actual dirt), manure, and potting mix. Would it be a good idea to mix these together? Layer? None of the above?
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1973 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:01 pm to
I used a mixture of raised bed garden soil and inground garden soil. Whatever came on sale that is what I used. My wife had a bumper crop of tomatoes this year with that mixture.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
42983 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

topsoil(it's actual dirt)
will likely be full of weed seeds. if you want some clay content, you can buy red clay (its kind of powdered) in bags. i never use it
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84111 posts
Posted on 8/29/23 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

will likely be full of weed seeds.
I used some this Spring(that's how I found out it was actual soil) and has zero weed issues.
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