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Why does my Trane Thermostat Only Have 3 Wires Connecting to It?

Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:15 pm
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37876 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:15 pm
want to replace this thermostat with an ecobee smart thermostat and the instructions say to take a picture or note where the wires are located on the current thermostat. well, i have 8 wires total and only 3 are connected. also, the plugs don't have your normal labels.


Brown > D
Red > R
Blue > B
Black > not connected
Green > not connected
White > not connected
Orange > not connected
Yellow > not connected









Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84111 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 1:54 pm to
That's the way mine were wired. When I added Nest thermostats, I had to use the white common wire as the 4th.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19956 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:04 pm to
It appears your t-stat is a communicating t-stat that uses proprietary communication.

If you don't want to screw up and have to completely re-wire/re-setup your system, dont replace the t-stat. Communicating t-stats have a lot of control advantages.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

It appears your t-stat is a communicating t-stat that uses proprietary communication.

If you don't want to screw up and have to completely re-wire/re-setup your system, dont replace the t-stat. Communicating t-stats have a lot of control advantages.



this ^^^^^^^

have it replaced by a/c tech so he can wire it correctly and not short things out costing you money and down time

or leave it alone, whichever suits you best, but i wouldnt suggest a home owner mess with the control wiring, because you dont know enough to know what you are doing.

ps that last wiring diagram pic is for standard thermostat connections
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37876 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

ps that last wiring diagram pic is for standard thermostat connections


i figured as much. so trane is the only company that has to be different?

how did i pick a house that has a completely different wiring diagram.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84111 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:15 pm to
This video may assist you.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
37876 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

This video may assist you.


i don't know if you saw the images in the OP or not, but non of the labels in my current thermostat match the "standard" labels typically seen in a thermostat.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:39 pm to
quote:


i figured as much. so trane is the only company that has to be different?

how did i pick a house that has a completely different wiring diagram.



the wiring is there, the unused ones, so its not a big deal to have it redone, should be no more then a 1 hr service call if you have thethermostat on hand you want to use

the issue is you done know whether those wires are hooked up or not at the heater so if you hook up the wrong one it can blow a fuse or burn out a circuit board $$$$$$$$$$$

so the a/c tech will open the heater up and wire the controls to match the new thermostat wiring
This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
19956 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 2:54 pm to
Every company offers communicating controls. It is typically required for the higher end/higher efficiency setups. You'd be stepping backwards if you went to something like nest/ecobee. They are gimmick t-stats at best and not for optimal performance.
Posted by UPGDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
646 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:18 pm to
That stat is wired using Modbus communications between the stat and the air unit board. It's an expensive stat. As people have said, there are multiple control advantages to a communication stat like more advanced diagnostics, more information presented to the user, etc. Most companies have a communicating stat like this in their products (Trane, York, Carrier,etc) and usually its the most expensive option.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84111 posts
Posted on 7/12/21 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

i don't know if you saw the images in the OP or not, but non of the labels in my current thermostat match the "standard" labels typically seen in a thermostat.
Right, but you have the colors. I've always just followed vids like this and it's always worked out. The one time it didn't, nothing was damaged-I just needed an extra wire.
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