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2024-2025 Men's Basketball Roster
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:00 pm
PG:
Givens
SG:
Williams
Stewart
SF:
Ward
Wilkinson (if he takes 5th year)
PF:
Collins
Miller
Chest
Reed
Fountain
Center:
N/A
Looking at a starting 5 of
Givens
Williams
Ward
Reed
Miller/Fountain
Cook has another year but ain't coming back. If you listened to the post game presser, they asked MM about Cook's 20 pts and 8 boards. He basically said great job rebounding, but we need better team looks. Aka Cook is becoming a much less talented black hole like Cam Thomas.
In order for them to sniff the tournament they desperately need another primary ball handler, another 6'6-6'7 wing to back up Ward, and preferably another post player that can score from the outside (Darius Days or Tari Eason). I admittedly haven't seen much tape of Chest, but from what I have seen, he is more Emmitt Williams than Darius Days.
Reed has to frame and skill set to develop into a Tari Eason. The question will be can he?
Givens
SG:
Williams
Stewart
SF:
Ward
Wilkinson (if he takes 5th year)
PF:
Collins
Miller
Chest
Reed
Fountain
Center:
N/A
Looking at a starting 5 of
Givens
Williams
Ward
Reed
Miller/Fountain
Cook has another year but ain't coming back. If you listened to the post game presser, they asked MM about Cook's 20 pts and 8 boards. He basically said great job rebounding, but we need better team looks. Aka Cook is becoming a much less talented black hole like Cam Thomas.
In order for them to sniff the tournament they desperately need another primary ball handler, another 6'6-6'7 wing to back up Ward, and preferably another post player that can score from the outside (Darius Days or Tari Eason). I admittedly haven't seen much tape of Chest, but from what I have seen, he is more Emmitt Williams than Darius Days.
Reed has to frame and skill set to develop into a Tari Eason. The question will be can he?
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:08 pm to WaydownSouth
Rebounding. They need an Emmett Williams. They scored with the best scoring team in the country. 55% from the field. 37% from 3. They lost going away because they let bama take 19 offensive rebounds. Letting teams shoot until they make won’t win many games.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:14 pm to lsu711
Yes. But they are losing their top 3 scorers.
You have to replace points
You have to replace points
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:16 pm to WaydownSouth
PG:
Givens - True FR, Not sure he is ready to run the point in the SEC
SG:
Williams - Been decent at times
Stewart - Didn't show anything before getting hurt
SF:
Ward - Refuses to play Def, can score at times, but really is too much of a defensive liability
Wilkinson (if he takes 5th year)
PF:
Collins - Mystery
Miller
Chest - Will he be back? Word is that him and CMM don't see eye-to-eye
Reed - Hasn't really developed beyond a role-player
Fountain - solid player but does he have any upside?
Center:
N/A
I guess the test is - Who would a team in the top half the SEC pick from above to put in their Top 7 rotation?
Givens - True FR, Not sure he is ready to run the point in the SEC
SG:
Williams - Been decent at times
Stewart - Didn't show anything before getting hurt
SF:
Ward - Refuses to play Def, can score at times, but really is too much of a defensive liability
Wilkinson (if he takes 5th year)
PF:
Collins - Mystery
Miller
Chest - Will he be back? Word is that him and CMM don't see eye-to-eye
Reed - Hasn't really developed beyond a role-player
Fountain - solid player but does he have any upside?
Center:
N/A
I guess the test is - Who would a team in the top half the SEC pick from above to put in their Top 7 rotation?
Posted on 2/10/24 at 7:25 pm to rds dc
quote:
Chest - Will he be back? Word is that him and CMM don't see eye-to-eye
Where did this word come from?
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:03 pm to WaydownSouth
We will lose a bunch so we'll need to find a few upgrades in the portal or have the freshman play way over their good but not great HS rankings.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:11 pm to WaydownSouth
quote:
If you listened to the post game presser, they asked MM about Cook's 20 pts and 8 boards. He basically said great job rebounding, but we need better team looks. Aka Cook is becoming a much less talented black hole like Cam Thomas
I swear just 3 weeks ago people were saying this dude was our savior
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:27 pm to Bottom9
lol don’t compare a SG to a PG . Or can Thomas to cook that’s probly the stupidest comparison I have seen yet. One nba player who averages around 23 points a game the other a PG who won’t see pg time in the nba maybe overseas
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:28 pm to WaydownSouth
I think you can expect to have at least 6-7 new players (maybe more). 2 of which will be the current signees. Who leaves beyond Hannibal, Baker, Dean, and Wright we don’t know. That’s not a knock on McMahon. It’s just the reality of college basketball today. He’ll have to find some guys in the portal, just like every coach. The question is can he quickly gel that group into a team?
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:29 pm to GoneFishing21
quote:
Where did this word come from?
Earlier in the season, from the very narrow band of social media that actually covers LSU basketball.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:32 pm to rds dc
That’s a pretty good assessment. I’m not sure if that’s accurate about Chest, but I’d probably add that Miller is a high upside, but raw player. There is a chance that he doesn’t play a ton next year.
The development of Reed/Ward has been really frustrating. 2 talented players that are averaging 6-7 ppg and only playing around 20mpg in year 2 on a poor team. Doesn’t give you much confidence in what year 3 looks like for them, or year 2 for Williams.
The development of Reed/Ward has been really frustrating. 2 talented players that are averaging 6-7 ppg and only playing around 20mpg in year 2 on a poor team. Doesn’t give you much confidence in what year 3 looks like for them, or year 2 for Williams.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:37 pm to Tigerfan14
Collin’s would’ve been an absolute stud in wades scheme and Reid
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:42 pm to Alt26
quote:
I think you can expect to have at least 6-7 new players (maybe more). 2 of which will be the current signees. Who leaves beyond Hannibal, Baker, Dean, and Wright we don’t know. That’s not a knock on McMahon. It’s just the reality of college basketball today. He’ll have to find some guys in the portal, just like every coach. The question is can he quickly gel that group into a team?
He will have to hit some homeruns out of the portal b/c I'm just not seeing a core group of returning players that you can build a tournament team around.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:46 pm to Masonburden67
Collins would’ve been useful as a shot blocker and I’m sure he would’ve done well in Wade’s presses.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:46 pm to Tigerfan14
quote:
The development of Reed/Ward has been really frustrating. 2 talented players that are averaging 6-7 ppg and only playing around 20mpg in year 2 on a poor team. Doesn’t give you much confidence in what year 3 looks like for them, or year 2 for Williams.
Reed and Ward have both gotten better.. but not enough to write home on MM being a good developer or those two being key pieces. Think they're solid rotational players but not players to build a team around.
I think Reed should focus on playing center. He's playing more like a big man this year.. that hybrid point forward play style he had last year is not gonna work. His best attributes are blocking shots, finishing, and rebounding- all things a center should do. His shot is getting better too. Form is improved from last year. I think he should play center next year and we should run a 5 out on offense.
Just my two cents.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:48 pm to WaydownSouth
quote:
Wilkinson (if he takes 5th year)
It'd be stunning if he stuck around here for a 5th year. He started more as a true freshman on a tourney team than he has on two bad teams under McMahon. Not saying it's McMahon's fault since Mwani has been injured but it clearly hasn't worked out for Mwani under him.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:51 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
It'd be stunning if he stuck around here for a 5th year. He started more as a true freshman on a tourney team than he has on two bad teams under McMahon. Not saying it's McMahon's fault since Mwani has been injured but it clearly hasn't worked out for Mwani under him.
The downfall of Mwani is quite depressing to me. He was my favorite player on WW's teams, all for him to flounder under MM. I'm aware he was hurt, but for him to ride the bench and be put in the same time as the walk ons is just depressing...
Don't know if he's not fully healthy, if the injury altered him, if MM dislikes him, or what. Would love to know.
I do think if he takes a 5th year its a high possibility he's grad transferring
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:52 pm to Tigerfan14
Exactly wade would’ve made that kid into a monster . Tari Eason clone
Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:04 pm to mcmaniacinsaneasylum
Reed is an extremely inconsistent rebounder. He’s had several games where guards out rebounded him. He’s athletic enough to play the 4 and his size there would be a plus.
Reed and Ward were supposed to be talented building blocks. If they are already hopeless, we are really screwed.
Reed and Ward were supposed to be talented building blocks. If they are already hopeless, we are really screwed.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:07 pm to Tigerfan14
quote:
He’s athletic enough to play the 4 and his size there would be a plus
He's not good enough of a shooter offensively to play the 4 imo. Best teams in the SEC have 4 or 5 guys who can shoot. Defensively I think he is pretty good at switching and guarding multiple positions.
Imagine if we move him to the 5 and surround him with four shooters. A center that can ACTUALLY drop the ball, pass, take it and score, and get the occasional three.
This post was edited on 2/10/24 at 9:08 pm
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