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Assistant coach hot seat ratings

Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Tigerstark
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Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:04 pm

Cannot remain in position -

Joe Sloan - absolutely no way he can remain as OC. Offense has been bad for most of the season and regressed as the season went along. If you need to keep him for recruiting, remain as QB coach Co-OC or whatever you need to call it, but absolutely has no business being in charge of the offense or calling plays.

Jake Flint - team is soft as Charmin. Against UF we had twice the time of possession but still looked to have less energy in the 4th quarter. Been dominated too many times. Physically pushed around too much. Usually at best, we have have a stalemate.

The shortest of short ropes -

Slade Nagle - definitely have to get more out of a special teams coach, and with limits no longer a problem, hire a specific ST coach. But the TEs don't look any better than previous season, despite the talent. TE blocking still an issue. TE receiving not as productive.

Jake Olsen - safeties are terrible on this team. Tackling, angles, responsibilities, etc. The fact that no younger player has taken a spot is indicative of a coaching issue as well.

Brad Davis - coaches and recruits like Tarzan, players play like Jane. The guys who are likely to start next year don't even look serviceable. Chester is not a good Center. Tackles were supposed to be stars but don't play like it.

Butts are uncomfortably warm -

Brian KeLLLLy - only reason he isn't higher is $50,000,000. Get control of the program BK. Doesn't seem to have much of a clue. Needs a complete overhaul in offense. Bad decisions builing team and NIL. Way too many double digit deficits against power 5 teams.

Cortez Hankton - last years WR him some slack, but the complete lack of playmaking this year is damning. Having none of the youngsters ready to go to pick up slack. We have a couple of WR 2/3 and some slot guys. Very few big plays here, talent and development seems suspect

Close to being on the burner -

Blake Baker - gets a pass due to talent issues. Can see the improvement at times, and even had a few spells where defense looked strong. But inability to stop running QBs, talent and youth issues, doesn't always have the players ready to go.

Comfortable for now -

Frank Wilson - lots of question marks about RB usage. Maybe some about developement as well (Jackson). But safe for now. Not our biggest issue by far.

Corey Raymond - Corners look better overall. Recruiting well. Just got here. Determination to be made in future, but looks positive to this point.

Bo Davis - doing well with what he has to work with. Recruiting well. Looks positive to this point.

Kevin Peoples - perhaps the best turn around job on the staff so far. DEs appear better. Would like to see more depth, but better talent will improve.

Desperately Needed -

New OC, potentially new offensive scheme. But certainly updated. Throws over the middle, better running game. More imagination. Better playcalling. Red Zone scoring essential.

ST coordinator - find the best guy possible. Significant issue for this team.



Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
5810 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:05 pm to
I’d rather let go of Hankton and keep Sloan as QB coach. Bring in a new play caller, our receivers have regressed tremendously this year
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
9608 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

our receivers have regressed tremendously this year

Maybe it's because they're "uncoachable." Lacy seems like a headcase and Hilton hasn't been on the field. Anderson improved tremendously and you gotta look at what Nabers and Thomas are doing in the NFL.

Regarding OP, Bakers seat is comfortable and I don't think S&C coach is that hot. We're soft because we don't hit in preseason practice and that's on Kelly
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60922 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:13 pm to
I trust BK to accurately judge the performance of the assistants and make the necessary moves.

Personally, I'm most concerned about the running game struggles under Brad Davis throughout his career.
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1212 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:23 pm to
So damn near a complete coaching staff lol
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20919 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Joe Sloan - absolutely no way he can remain as OC. Offense has been bad for most of the season and regressed as the season went along. If you need to keep him for recruiting, remain as QB coach Co-OC or whatever you need to call it, but absolutely has no business being in charge of the offense or calling plays.


I am not sure we have enough info on this. Up until two games ago the offense was carrying the team. Play success is 30% call and 70% read execution. If Nuss is making the wrong reads and checking into the wrong runs then nothing will work. First 7 games the checkdown throw was killing everyone. Now, hardly a checkdown in sight.

Other issues of late;
LG has been out 2.5 games.
Center turned into a turnstile when Dellinger went out
CJDaniels has been out
Playing with about 4 WRs in rotation
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60922 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I am not sure we have enough info on this. Up until two games ago the offense was carrying the team. Play success is 30% call and 70% read execution. If Nuss is making the wrong reads and checking into the wrong runs then nothing will work. First 7 games the checkdown throw was killing everyone. Now, hardly a checkdown in sight.

Other issues of late;
LG has been out 2.5 games.
Center turned into a turnstile when Dellinger went out
CJDaniels has been out
Playing with about 4 WRs in rotation


100%

It's impossible to know how much of this is on coaching if you aren't in those meetings and on the headset.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284640 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:35 pm to
when Sam Pittman gets fired id like to bring him in as an analyst
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 1:55 pm to
Trust him? He swung and missed big time with Sloan this year.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6524 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Trust him? He swung and missed big time with Sloan this year.


He's at best 50% in his coordinator choices.

Denbrock worked well. Sloan has not. House was terrible. Baker promising.
Posted by lsufan2024
Member since Nov 2024
27 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:17 pm to
Agreed
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60922 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Trust him? He swung and missed big time with Sloan this year.


I don't know if that's true or not.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213058 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:22 pm to
Please tell us how this is not true…
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60922 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

Please tell us how this is not true…


I didn't say it wasn't, I said I don't know if it is or not.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6524 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

00%

It's impossible to know how much of this is on coaching if you aren't in those meetings and on the headset.


Over a few game stretch, maybe.

But over a season, you can know. Either the coach is not able to have a good enough scheme. Or the coach isn't able to call plays. Or the coach is not able to teach the QB how to properly make the right checks and audibles. Or a combination of all three. At this point, there is zero evidence Sloan is a good OC. Heading into this stretch Nuss was a 50% completion rate QB in SEC play, and thats with a whole bunch of easy high completion percentage throws. He's now throwing as many INTs as TDs. The red zone offense is horrific. And most damning - its regressing instead of improving.
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
3364 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:27 pm to
I'll take the entire Greenie staff over the LSU staff, with a couple exceptions!
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
60922 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

But over a season, you can know. Either the coach is not able to have a good enough scheme. Or the coach isn't able to call plays. Or the coach is not able to teach the QB how to properly make the right checks and audibles. Or a combination of all three. At this point, there is zero evidence Sloan is a good OC. Heading into this stretch Nuss was a 50% completion rate QB in SEC play, and thats with a whole bunch of easy high completion percentage throws. He's now throwing as many INTs as TDs. The red zone offense is horrific. And most damning - its regressing instead of improving.


Is this all coaching or all execution or a combination? None of us really know.

Fans blame coaching an inordinate amount when things are bad and give credit an inordinate amount when things are good, Joe Brady is a good example of the latter.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99498 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Other issues of late;
LG has been out 2.5 games.
Center turned into a turnstile when Dellinger went out
CJDaniels has been out
Playing with about 4 WRs in rotation



These are all issues that aren't helpful. However they're issues that a competent OC has to adapt to. I'll grant Sloan he's not dealing with the most stacked deck. The run blocking has been awful and the two turnstiles in the middle are currently wrecking our pass game. But Sloans vanilla play calling doesn't do anything to help anyone. Its unimaginitive and straightforward for a defensive to counter.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
213058 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:33 pm to
How could you not know??? You have had a 10 game sample… this offense has zero imagination and zero running game. And has gotten worse.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
18756 posts
Posted on 11/17/24 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

We're soft because we don't hit in preseason practice and that's on Kelly

I disagree. Hitting in practice for 3 weeks wouldn’t have made this team tough.
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