re: Brody Miller with a nice piece in the Athletic on TJ Finley

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The most interesting part to me was TJ was hinting at some drama between him and Max last year that he didn’t want to elaborate on.

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I have a few of comments on this:

1) he never said the drama was between he and max. He just stated that there was some things going on in the QB room that the public did not know and it factored into his decision.

2) I respect tf out of TJ for not talking shite. It would have been easy for an 18 year old to cry to the media about how mistreated he was (not that I think he was, but 18 year olds are quick to point fingers in general), but he chose the high road and spoke highly of his teammates.

3) my guess is that towards the end of spring (or possibly all of spring) the coaches made clear who the 2 lead horses were. Maybe they cut his reps or just focused on the other two in film sessions more. Maybe the coaches didn’t do anything and he could see that he wasn’t making the reads and plays that the other guys were making. Idk the specifics but the writing was on the wall and that would hurt anyone’s pride. My point is that saying that “stuff” went on behind closed doors doesn’t necessarily mean that the players had issues with one another.

My overall takeaway from that article is that TJ has a good head on his shoulders and I wish him the best. As others have said, I hope he doesn’t over estimate his own abilities and pick a school where he will end up in the same position he is in now.

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If he goes to Bama and thinks he can compete with Bryce Young

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Why do you think this is remarkable? He competed with Max Johnson; started five games last year. Is Bryce that much better than Max?

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. Is Bryce that much better than Max?

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Never seen Bryce play a single college snap but if you take the word of the media that went to Bama’s spring game and practices, yes he is that much better than Max.

The reports out of TTown are that Bryce is the best QB Bama has ever had and that’s following 2 first rounders and a 3rd rounder who are all set to start in the nfl.

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if you take the word of the media that went to Bama’s spring game and practices, yes he is that much better than Max.

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Yeah, but if you take the word of the media Tua was that much better than Burrow.

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Did I watch Finley play last year? I think the more accurate question is did you watch him.

TJ is very accurate when dropping deep and given time. From the SC game through the Spring game he showed both his accuracy and ability to read when the play allowed him to take a 5 step or more drop with little pressure. As I said, this fits Alabama’s style and O line. They prefer to run plays that target deep digs, deep posts and deep crossing routes. TJ is not a good QB when pressure forces him move off of his plant foot post drop or before he can plant. He loses vision and lacks lateral mobility. Watch Mac Jones, especially in 2019. He struggled with this as well. Frankly, no one really put pressure on him in 2020. In 2019 , however, he looked like a duck on the water when forced to move off of his drop or plant.

Your reading comprehension is shite and understanding of QB play is worse. You equate no pressure to accuracy. There are a great number of QBs who have played at a high level that are not accurate even when throwing from a clean pocket. In regard to TJ, I stated at least twice : deep digs, deep posts, deep crosses. These are the routes he sees and throws best. They are also the routes that drive Alabama’s pass game. If you don’t understand that after the last two years, then you should really stop commenting about football as a whole.

You have no clue of how to process or analyze what you are watching as it relates to QB play and the nuances of the position. Joe B’s accuracy in both a clean pocket and when moved off of point differed by less than 5%. Both were over 65%. This translates to an extremely accurate QB. Bo Nix is not a good QB even when given time. Jefferson, Jennings and Harris were not good QBs even when given time. Neither Hurts nor Tua were as good as Mac when given time. The lack of pressure helps a QB who IS accurate and doesn’t like to be moved off of point. Pressure affects all QBs, however, some much less than others with JoeB being a prime example.

TJ’s lack of mobility leads to discomfort. It is obvious to see the physical discomfort in his body language when forced to move off point or his plant foot. TJ is similar to Mac Jones in this respect. He is accurate when throwing from a clean pocket.

Both Max J and TJ struggled with Go routes as most true freshmen do. That timing comes with more play time and feel for receivers. Frankly , JoeB didn’t throw Go routes well in 2018. I didn’t refer to these at any point in support of my position. I think both will throw that route well as their playing time increases.

TJ has a ton of accuracy when he can plant and throw the routes I listed. (Note that I think he also throws both the flag and deep out very well, but not as well as those deeper patterns over the middle ). Alabama and Auburn wouldn’t want him if he were at Jennings, Harris or Jefferson’s talent level! I think both of those staffs have a pretty good history of identifying talented QBs. He will make someone very happy and succeed at the position.

Finally, because I know you have poor reading comprehension, I will state for the record again that I believe Max is a better QB than TJ in our offense. His lateral quickness and ability to run for yards compliment our offense. Max can accurately throw while moving around. TJ doesn't have these additional traits and struggles throwing when moved off of point. This offense thrives when the QB can move and throw while moving.

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I will state for the record again that I believe Max is a better QB than TJ in our offense.

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I'm at this same conclusion but I don't understand why some fans feel the need to shite on the kid. In a covid year, without spring practices, a shitty OL and shitty RB play, a true freshman TJ showed flashes that he could play at a very high level.

You lost me at

“I can’t believe Nick Saban is so dumb...”


Yes, you evaluate QB talent better than Nick. My apologies.

If I was Myles Brennan, I would read the writing on the wall and hit the transfer portal too. As no way Max Johnson will not win the starting job. As Ed O has already said he wants a mobile QB.