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re: First baseman had wrong foot on the bag restricting his ability to stretch for the throw

Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:52 am to
Posted by Tigerfan14
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:52 am to
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What I don't understand is why Milazzo left home with a runner on 3rd. Situational baseball failure. If he stays home and herring fields it coming forward, safest play is to toss home where your catcher should be. Worst thing that happens is the runner is safe and the game is tied.


Right. Because even if Herring gets the ball and tries to go to first, he has to spin and throw in a hurry.

People talking about Jones stretching with the wrong foot, but didn’t see Milazzo throw to first with his right foot forward? He literally did everything wrong fundamentally, but people are blaming the guy that was the only reason we were in this game
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:53 am to
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What I don't understand is why Milazzo left home with a runner on 3rd.


2 outs... get guy at first and inning over. Nothing wrong with decision. Bad execution.

I have seen many comments on bad throw and bad catch by 1B... both were contributory. Bad throw by catcher but ball was catchable. Would have been a collision at 1B if so which may have generated an interference call
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:56 am to
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The right handed first baseman should have had his right foot on the bag


Stopped right there

Who told you that
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:57 am to
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The right handed first baseman should have had his right foot on the bag


You didn’t think this through very well did you?
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 7:58 am to
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The over-zealous call off of Herring and the showboat throw over

horseshite! Yes, it was Milazzo’s fault. He should have made a better throw. But Milazzo did not have the advantage of watching the replay. He made an aggressive, snap decision and took command. It wasn’t a bad decision as the play proved. He made the play in time and he took the game out of a pitcher’s hands.

The problem was the throw. It was going to be a tough defensive play either way. He had to throw a bullet and he had to throw it fast, without setting up. He didn’t get it done. But to say he was showboating and over-zealous is pussy fan stuff.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 7:59 am
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:01 am to
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tigersbb


You are 1000% wrong and completely out of your element. 1B squares up with the catcher on those plays and doesn't stretch.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:02 am to
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The right handed first baseman should have had his right foot on the bag

This is not true when receiving a ball from home.


He wasn't receiving a throw from home in the usual sense which would be parallel to the base line with the catcher near the plate. The ball is near the mound and most often coming from the pitcher on a play like that. Milazzo was not showboating as some claim, he recognized a left handed pitcher would have to field and turn toward the base whereas he was facing that way.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:06 am to
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Pretty standard stuff. Jones did what he was supposed to do.

I have no issue with Jones. It looked to me like he was making himself a big target towards the most open part of the throwing lane.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:07 am to
Is the runner no longer required to run in the lane?

This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 8:08 am
Posted by skullhawk
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:09 am to
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Is the runner no longer required to run in the lane?


He was definitely obstructing early down the line. He knew what he was doing. The problem is, by the time Milazzo makes the throw the runner had veered back to the line so on reply it looks like a clean play.

Also you’re not getting that call in Tuscaloosa after that bad of a throw. If there was a collision at first that caused a missed ball you may have a shot.
This post was edited on 5/11/24 at 8:10 am
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:11 am to
He exactly one step on the lane side of the foul line the entire 90'. Most of it was closer to the grass than the line. Not excusing Milazzo's throw, or, call, but rules are rules.

I honestly don't know if that is a reviewable play or not.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:11 am to
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It wasn’t a bad decision as the play proved.


i listened on the radio, and just seeing the play for the 1st time, Milazzo should have never called for that ball. That is an easy play for Herring
Posted by jrctiger84
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:13 am to
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What I don't understand is why Milazzo left home with a runner on 3rd. Situational baseball failure. If he stays home and herring fields it coming forward, safest play is to toss home where your catcher should be. Worst thing that happens is the runner is safe and the game is tied.


This right here is the proper answer. Not the bad throw, not Jones footwork, not the runner running in wrong path !!!! Milazzo should have stayed home. Now let’s go win today and give it our best shot on Sunday!!!
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:26 am to
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That is a basic fundamental but I see this improper footwork frequently by today's players.
This is laughably wrong. On a play like that the basic fundamental is to use your left foot so that you give the fielder a square target to throw to.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:28 am to
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It wasn’t a bad decision as the play proved.
It absolutely was. That was the pitcher’s ball without question.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:31 am to
It’s 50/50, either play is the right play. Just gotta execute it.
Posted by canyon
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:33 am to
A couple of bad things had to happen to frick up the play. Milagro made em both. Herring had a clear path to ball and the throw. It got fubarred when he shot puts the throw completely opposite of where it should have gone and airmails past Jones.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:41 am to
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You're saying he should have set up to the outside of the basepath and have the catcher throw directly across the front of the runner? Or your saying if Jones would have lined up to where the catcher was accidentally throwing it, then he would have caught it..


The position of the runner was irrelevant as he would be behind the interaction between Milazzo and Jones on the throw. Jones should get to the bag and place the right foot against the bag with his glove up about chest high as a target. By doing so he gets about an extra foot to stretch for the throw. If he doesn't set up that way and the runner is very fast he might still beat even a perfect throw because of the extra foot he loses with the wrong foot on the base. He should also be in a slight crouch to lower his hips which allows him to more quickly move to either side id necessary instead of just standing flat footed and expecting an easy play to be made.

As soon as he recognizes the throw was off line he has to determine whether he can stretch and catch it with his foot remaining on the base. If not he leaves the bag and with the extra stretching radius he catches the throw and attempts a sweep tag if possible. If not he just stops the ball from leaving the field.

Its the first baseman's job to always anticipate a bad throw from any position. It doesn't excuse the player making the bad throw. By placing the same side foot as his throwing hand he extends the catching radius and erases the potential error or minimizes its effect.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27889 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:43 am to
The reason you see so many people do it like that is because in that situation they’re doing it correctly and you’re the one who is wrong. This is pretty basic.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278674 posts
Posted on 5/11/24 at 8:46 am to
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Its the first baseman's job to always anticipate a bad throw from any position. It doesn't excuse the player making the bad throw. By placing the same side foot as his throwing hand he extends the catching radius and erases the potential error or minimizes its effect.



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