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How did the Pitching dramatically improve so quickly?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:51 pm
Once the "Friday Starter" Skenes was taken into account, there was not much after that to generate a lot of confidence after LSU beat Kentucky in the Super Regional. Most people thought that the LSU Offense would have to win the games, because the Pitching and especially the Bullpen was not generating a lot of confidence.
Most folks accepted that. After all, LSU had lost three excellent pitchers to injury. That's a big loss. No college team is perfect and it was accepted that the LSU Offense would have to win the games in Omaha. Not many expected LSU to win it all, and, this board reflected that fact at the time.
But something very strange happened - Skenes was Skenes of course, but, the rest of the LSU pitching staff pitched out of their minds, and I wish I knew how they managed that amazing feat.
How did these guys do it? How did they manage to step up the level of pitching so dramatically?
Most folks accepted that. After all, LSU had lost three excellent pitchers to injury. That's a big loss. No college team is perfect and it was accepted that the LSU Offense would have to win the games in Omaha. Not many expected LSU to win it all, and, this board reflected that fact at the time.
But something very strange happened - Skenes was Skenes of course, but, the rest of the LSU pitching staff pitched out of their minds, and I wish I knew how they managed that amazing feat.
How did these guys do it? How did they manage to step up the level of pitching so dramatically?
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:52 pm to Champagne
The SEC zone went away and for the most part the wind blew in.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:53 pm to Champagne
Home field all the way through plus Omaha is more of a pitchers park is part of it
Guys stepping up in crunch time
Coaches calling great games
Guys stepping up in crunch time
Coaches calling great games
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:54 pm to Champagne
The coaches scaled back on who they put in high leverage situations.
Some guys that struggled this year will be better next season for the experience gained
Some guys that struggled this year will be better next season for the experience gained
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:54 pm to Champagne
Biggest difference I saw was much more of an emphasis on attacking the zone.
Earlier on 0-2 or 1-2 it seemed like we threw alot more “chase pitches” let the hitter even the count and had to feed Fastballs that got smoked or just walked guys.
In Omaha it seemed like 0-2 or 1-2 meant blood in the water and we just went after dudes.
Earlier on 0-2 or 1-2 it seemed like we threw alot more “chase pitches” let the hitter even the count and had to feed Fastballs that got smoked or just walked guys.
In Omaha it seemed like 0-2 or 1-2 meant blood in the water and we just went after dudes.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:56 pm to Champagne
Stopped walking a dozen batters a game
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:56 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Hurd and Floyd had been pitching good the last few weeks of regular season. The bullpen was definitely sporadic before postseason but when the wind blows into the field at Omaha it’s the pitcher’s best friend.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:56 pm to Tarpon08
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Biggest difference I saw was much more of an emphasis on attacking the zone.
And this was the key because if you made a mistake in the zone, odds were the ball wouldn’t be a HR.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:57 pm to Tarpon08
Guys stepped up big time and Johnson was playing 3 D chess. A remarkable turnaround for the bullpen, stunning.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:03 pm to Champagne
Rope was held
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:05 pm to WylieTiger
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The SEC zone went away
Reason 1a for me. Not gonna say every call was perfect the entire postseason run but you saw a much more realistic and consistent zone than we did regular season.
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most part the wind blew in.
That helped in Omaha. We adjusted and pitch well.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:09 pm to Tarpon08
+1. Basically the walks went bye bye and the pitchers trusted their pitches. Dramatic turnaround indeed. Fun to watch! Our 3 top pitchers (Skenes, Floyd, and Hurd) were spectacular! Ackenhausen and Cooper were unbelievable as well . Well done!
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:12 pm to Champagne
We don't know how it all magically came together, but we needed every bit of it.
Between Floyd being a true #2 (he was arguably even better than that especially in the CWS), then filling in the gaps with an Ackenhausen and Hurd and then move to the bullpen where Cooper was absolutely nails, this is how you win a championship. Add in a Herring giving very crucial long relief.
Hard to explain. Nobody saw all that coming. But it had to happen. And it did.
Between Floyd being a true #2 (he was arguably even better than that especially in the CWS), then filling in the gaps with an Ackenhausen and Hurd and then move to the bullpen where Cooper was absolutely nails, this is how you win a championship. Add in a Herring giving very crucial long relief.
Hard to explain. Nobody saw all that coming. But it had to happen. And it did.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:15 pm to financetiger38
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Stopped walking a dozen batters a game
Yep what really was a savior was the wind blowing in and the umps with a much more generous strike zone than what we saw in SEC play.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:23 pm to Jugular Joe
if you walk guys at this level, they are gonna come around and score. This held true for every game I watched in regionals, supers, cws.
Also, plus counts make a huge difference. Pitching ahead in counts makes a big difference.
Don’t really like throwing “waste pitches” with guys that can’t afford to waste pitches.
Coaches did a good job of calling pitches our guys could throw. Our guys did well throwing those pitches. And I think, overall, we got a favorable zone from blue.
Also, plus counts make a huge difference. Pitching ahead in counts makes a big difference.
Don’t really like throwing “waste pitches” with guys that can’t afford to waste pitches.
Coaches did a good job of calling pitches our guys could throw. Our guys did well throwing those pitches. And I think, overall, we got a favorable zone from blue.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:33 pm to Champagne
We did change one thing. In Omaha we had the catcher set up in the middle of the plate instead of whatever side the ball was going to. Makes us less predictable and easier to pound the zone.
Wind blew in
Strike zone changed a bit
Roles were defined
Focus intensified
Wind blew in
Strike zone changed a bit
Roles were defined
Focus intensified
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:38 pm to MCMBEANLVI
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The coaches scaled back on who they put in high leverage situations.
My first thought as well. The pool of candidates shrunk considerably.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:44 pm to Champagne
Much better job not giving up walks
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:51 pm to Champagne
Bigger strike zones
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:23 pm to WylieTiger
This is the only answer that is needed.
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