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How would Jayden Daniels & Bo Nix compare to every Heisman QB since 2010?...
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:21 pm
...The 5 images below are sorted based on.
- Yards per Attempt
- Adjusted Yards per Attempt
- QBR
- Total Yards per Play
- Total Yards per Game
There is one player that is No.1 in ALL of these 5 categories.
Care to guess who that is?
In 2023, the Heisman race is now down to 2 players. Here's their "Total Yards" and "Total TD's Responsible for" this season.
Daniels - 4,591 yards - 46 TD's
Nix - 3,667 yards - 40 TD's
The large disparity here is because in addition to being the best QB in the country, Jayden Daniels is also the best RB in the country with his 8.2 yards per carry (Minimum 100 carries).
Daniels has rushed for 1,014 yards and 10 TD's, while Nix has 128 yards and 5 TD's.
We can continue to debate this, but the debate is OVER!
In addition to being better than Bo Nix in 2023, Jayden Daniels is also better than the previous 11 Heisman winning QB's in these key categories.
JD5...Heisman!
Geaux Tigers!
If all these stats aren't enough, there's more...
LSU has more explosive plays over 20 yards than every team in the country.
Explosive Plays over 20 Yards
- LSU ranks No.1 in this category with 94, while Oregon ranks No.15 with 65.
In 2023, LSU has the No.1 Total Offense and No.1 Scoring Offense in the country. No team in the history of college football has ever done this while having the toughest schedule in the country. LSU's strength of schedule is currently ranked No.1.
JD5...Heisman!
Geaux Tigers!
***Edit***
Someone asked if I could provide a summary of all of those 5 stats. I thought that sounded like a great idea!
Each stat contains 13 players, 11 former Heisman winning QB's since 2010 and Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix from 2023.
1st place in a category earns 13 points, while last place earns 1 point. There are 5 categories, so the most points possible is 65 points. The least number of points possible is 5 points.
How would Jayden Daniels & Bo Nix compare to every Heisman QB since 2010?
Below is a summary of the 5 stats above.
1. 65 points - 2023 Jayden Daniels
2. 55 points - 2018 Kyler Murray
3. 54 points - 2019 Joe Burrow
4. 50 points - 2017 Baker Mayfield
5. 41 points - 2011 Robert Griffin III
6. 34 points - 2023 Bo Nix
7. 31 points - 2013 Jameis Winston
8. 30 points - 2014 Marcus Mariota
9. 23 points - 2010 Cam Newton
10. 22 points - 2022 Caleb Williams
11. 20 points - 2012 Johnny Manziel
12. 16 points - 2016 Lamar Jackson
13. 14 points - 2021 Bryce Young
In 2023, Bo Nix is having a great season. His performance based on these 5 stats would rank him better than 7 of the previous 11 Heisman QB's.
However, what Jayden Daniels is doing in 2023 is unprecedented. His performance based on these 5 stats would rank him better than ALL of the previous 11 Heisman QB's.
JD5...Heisman!
Geaux Tigers!
- Yards per Attempt
- Adjusted Yards per Attempt
- QBR
- Total Yards per Play
- Total Yards per Game
There is one player that is No.1 in ALL of these 5 categories.
Care to guess who that is?
In 2023, the Heisman race is now down to 2 players. Here's their "Total Yards" and "Total TD's Responsible for" this season.
Daniels - 4,591 yards - 46 TD's
Nix - 3,667 yards - 40 TD's
The large disparity here is because in addition to being the best QB in the country, Jayden Daniels is also the best RB in the country with his 8.2 yards per carry (Minimum 100 carries).
Daniels has rushed for 1,014 yards and 10 TD's, while Nix has 128 yards and 5 TD's.
We can continue to debate this, but the debate is OVER!
In addition to being better than Bo Nix in 2023, Jayden Daniels is also better than the previous 11 Heisman winning QB's in these key categories.
JD5...Heisman!
Geaux Tigers!
If all these stats aren't enough, there's more...
LSU has more explosive plays over 20 yards than every team in the country.
Explosive Plays over 20 Yards
- LSU ranks No.1 in this category with 94, while Oregon ranks No.15 with 65.
In 2023, LSU has the No.1 Total Offense and No.1 Scoring Offense in the country. No team in the history of college football has ever done this while having the toughest schedule in the country. LSU's strength of schedule is currently ranked No.1.
JD5...Heisman!
Geaux Tigers!
***Edit***
Someone asked if I could provide a summary of all of those 5 stats. I thought that sounded like a great idea!
Each stat contains 13 players, 11 former Heisman winning QB's since 2010 and Jayden Daniels and Bo Nix from 2023.
1st place in a category earns 13 points, while last place earns 1 point. There are 5 categories, so the most points possible is 65 points. The least number of points possible is 5 points.
How would Jayden Daniels & Bo Nix compare to every Heisman QB since 2010?
Below is a summary of the 5 stats above.
1. 65 points - 2023 Jayden Daniels
2. 55 points - 2018 Kyler Murray
3. 54 points - 2019 Joe Burrow
4. 50 points - 2017 Baker Mayfield
5. 41 points - 2011 Robert Griffin III
6. 34 points - 2023 Bo Nix
7. 31 points - 2013 Jameis Winston
8. 30 points - 2014 Marcus Mariota
9. 23 points - 2010 Cam Newton
10. 22 points - 2022 Caleb Williams
11. 20 points - 2012 Johnny Manziel
12. 16 points - 2016 Lamar Jackson
13. 14 points - 2021 Bryce Young
In 2023, Bo Nix is having a great season. His performance based on these 5 stats would rank him better than 7 of the previous 11 Heisman QB's.
However, what Jayden Daniels is doing in 2023 is unprecedented. His performance based on these 5 stats would rank him better than ALL of the previous 11 Heisman QB's.
JD5...Heisman!
Geaux Tigers!
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 1:01 am
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Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:31 pm to KeyserSoze007
If Jayden doesn't win the Heisman, it'll be a damn sham.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:33 pm to KeyserSoze007
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KeyserSoze007
Member since Nov 2023
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Just get ready for the game Jayden
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:35 pm to KeyserSoze007
That's incredible.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:36 pm to KeyserSoze007
The ONLY thing that is keeping Daniels from being a shoe in are the 3 losses. The Florida State loss happened because of a total team meltdown in the second half. LSU was leading at the half and well into the 3rd quarter and SHOULD have been up by 3 TDs at halftime. That loss was inexplicable.
The Ole Miss loss was fully on the defense and LSU STILL could have won on the last play.
The Alabama loss happened in the 3rd quarter when LSU's defense couldn't stop Alabama at all and LSU's offense didn't score on every possession. Then, Daniels got knocked out with a dirty hit to the chin.
Three tough losses to teams on the road or neutral site who are all highly ranked with a combined record of 30-3. And, Daniels doesn't play defense.
If Daniels has a big game on Saturday, I think its his trophy. If he has a bad game or if A&M stops him and LSU loses, I think it will go to Bo Nix. Saturday will be the test.
The Ole Miss loss was fully on the defense and LSU STILL could have won on the last play.
The Alabama loss happened in the 3rd quarter when LSU's defense couldn't stop Alabama at all and LSU's offense didn't score on every possession. Then, Daniels got knocked out with a dirty hit to the chin.
Three tough losses to teams on the road or neutral site who are all highly ranked with a combined record of 30-3. And, Daniels doesn't play defense.
If Daniels has a big game on Saturday, I think its his trophy. If he has a bad game or if A&M stops him and LSU loses, I think it will go to Bo Nix. Saturday will be the test.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:44 pm to KeyserSoze007
If JD5 gets to 4900 yds and 50 TDS against aTm there is no way he can be denied.
ETA In my mind what you posted is more than enough to call the thing today....BUT 4900/50 would make it impossible for anyone outside of Oregon to vote for anyone but Jayden.
ETA In my mind what you posted is more than enough to call the thing today....BUT 4900/50 would make it impossible for anyone outside of Oregon to vote for anyone but Jayden.
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 1:59 pm to KeyserSoze007
Good job putting out together. I sure hope he lights A&M's arse up
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:07 pm to KeyserSoze007
quote:
Explosive Plays over 20 Yards
- LSU ranks No.1 in this category with 94, while Oregon ranks No.15 with 65.
If you can find the stat, during the game they said JD accounted for more explosive plays than 130 NCAA teams. The only teams with more explosive plays were LSU & USC. At the time he was sitting at 70 something, then had a few more in the game after they posted that stat
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:08 pm to KeyserSoze007
Post that on SECRANT and watch the bama idiots heads explode.
For some reason they are unhinged on JD5 winning the Heisman
For some reason they are unhinged on JD5 winning the Heisman
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:10 pm to KeyserSoze007
quote:
LSU has the No.1 Total Offense and No.1 Scoring Offense in the country.
No team in the history of college football has ever done this while having the toughest schedule in the country.
LSU’s strength of schedule is currently ranked No.1.
No one is pointing this out nationally. Almost seems like they are intentionally ignoring it.
I see articles that still have Nix #1. Even though he only threw for 160 yards against a ranked team. “He won the game”.
You have to wonder if the Heisman is becoming more of a participation trophy (LSU won in 5 years ago. It’s someone else’s turn).
This post was edited on 11/20/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:12 pm to KeyserSoze007
quote:
all they did was change the order of the names but the stats are the same. What’s this adj. y/a shite
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:15 pm to Lee Chatelain
quote:
If Jayden doesn't win the Heisman, it'll be a damn sham
Especially since he might set NCAA records for Passer Rating and Total Yards per Play, and Total Yards per Game.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:18 pm to KeyserSoze007
I really still don't understand the talking point of the three losses - everyone knows our D is complete shite and it's not like the QB numbers were bad in those games on the road vs top 15 teams
Lamar, Tebow, and RG3 were all on 3+ loss teams
Lamar, Tebow, and RG3 were all on 3+ loss teams
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:43 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
Adjusted Yards per Attempt. Basically they take out dropped passes, spikes, and throwaways to calculate your average yardage gained every time you throw the ball excluding those previously stated scenarios.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 2:44 pm to BrownLeft Shoe
quote:looks like whoever made the graphic forgot to account for those scenarios because it’s the exact same as the normal Y/A.
Adjusted Yards per Attempt. Basically they take out dropped passes, spikes, and throwaways to calculate your average yardage gained every time you throw the ball excluding those previously stated scenarios.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:00 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
quote:
quote:
Adjusted Yards per Attempt. Basically they take out dropped passes, spikes, and throwaways to calculate your average yardage gained every time you throw the ball excluding those previously stated scenarios.
looks like whoever made the graphic forgot to account for those scenarios because it’s the exact same as the normal Y/A.
Look closely...Newton, Mariota, and Nix are shuffled around a little.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:12 pm to KeyserSoze007
Another great display of info that will hopefully FORCE the East and West coast voters to not be biased. 
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:22 pm to KeyserSoze007
quote:bro all they did was change the order of the names, the numbers are the exact same
Look closely...Newton, Mariota, and Nix are shuffled around a little
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:39 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
quote:
bro all they did was change the order of the names, the numbers are the exact same
Each of the 5 pics is sorted based on the 5 different categories.
Cam Newton's 10.2 Yards per attempt is higher than Mariota at 10.0 and Nix at 9.8.
For adjusted ypa, Mariota and Nix are at 11.5, while Newton is at 11.2.
The adjusted yards per attempt is weighted to include TD's and INT's.
Posted on 11/20/23 at 3:47 pm to KeyserSoze007
Daniels has 82 plays of 20+ yards.
The closest to Daniels is the entire 85 man roster of the University of Southern California also with 82.
The closest to Daniels is the entire 85 man roster of the University of Southern California also with 82.
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