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Old Dorm Rooms project in Tiger Stadium on the horizon?
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:50 am
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:50 am
Only 20+ years after Bottomline Bob Brodhead brought it up the first time:
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I never bought into the old storyline about the asbestos remediation in the dorms being too expensive. Asbestos removal has come a long way, schools and other state buildings have been remediated successfully and the asbestos in TS has to be cleaned out eventually. So what is the hold up? We all know those tailgating suites would be an instant sell out and be hugely popular
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In his first official day on the job, LSU Athletic Director Joe Alleva was turning over a ceremonial shovel of dirt at the groundbreaking for the school’s new $14 million basketball practice facility.
It’s the latest in a string of facility upgrades LSU has taken on this decade, first under former Athletic Director Joe Dean and then Athletic Director emeritus Skip Bertman.
Since 2000, two decks (one new, one rebuilt) have been added to Tiger Stadium. LSU — and it’s athletic fundraising arm, the Tiger Athletic Foundation — have renovated the seating area of the Pete Maravich Assembly Center, built new parking lots to accommodate football tailgaters and is in the midst of construction on new baseball and softball parks.
“The facilities we have are really good,” Alleva said after Tuesday’s ceremony. “Now it’s my job to make them a little better.”
If he had another 10 years, Bertman said, he would want to tackle the last few critical items on LSU’s facilities wish list: an indoor tennis facility, an upgraded natatorium for swimming, and other improvements.
“I think we could catch Florida,” Bertman said, “which is essentially the best athletic program in the conference.”
Would improvements include adding an upper deck, suites and/or club seats to the south end of Tiger Stadium? Bertman wouldn’t go there, but Alleva does regard the 84-year-old monolith as a fixer upper.
“My first priority is to make it a real showplace,” Alleva said. “Then we’ll think about expanding.
“It should be a gem that really stands out. It’s big and it’s beautiful, but there are things I’d like to do to the facade.”
Alleva cited hundreds of rusting windows, which open onto now unused dormitory rooms.
Dormitories were first built into Tiger Stadium in the 1930s as a compromise project to provide student housing and expand the arena.
“Then there’s the infrastructure,” Alleva said. “That’s going to be a big priority.”
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And Alleva sees this as the last in the latest round of facility upgrades, with the next project on hand a sprucing-up of the Tiger Stadium facade. The new AD wants to attack those old abandoned dorm rooms and do something with them.
Could be that old persistent idea for turning them into tailgating suites might get new life.
I never bought into the old storyline about the asbestos remediation in the dorms being too expensive. Asbestos removal has come a long way, schools and other state buildings have been remediated successfully and the asbestos in TS has to be cleaned out eventually. So what is the hold up? We all know those tailgating suites would be an instant sell out and be hugely popular
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:51 am to supatigah
i would be in favor of doing this long before bothering with expansion.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:54 am to supatigah
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Dormitories were first built into Tiger Stadium in the 1930s as a compromise project to provide student housing
Huey Long
Not to provide student housing but a stadium for LSU football! 
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:54 am to bbap
do yall think changing the "facade" would be a positive? or would it take away from the aura (sp) of the stadium?
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:55 am to bbap
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i would be in favor of doing this long before bothering with expansion
would stand to reason that the new debt load of renovating the dorms versus the potential revenue generated would be moderate (compared to another stadium expansion) and the PR that tailgating suites would generate would be fantastic.
Why not take on debt for the dorm renovation, then use the new revenue stream to pay for the renovations and then the next expansion? That was Bottomline Bob's original proposal. have the Dorm Suites pay for themselves and then pay for the rest of the stadium improvements.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:55 am to supatigah
remediation can be expensive when you take into account labor, removal, disposal and subsequent air monitoring.
to give you a ballpark figure, the air monitoring for the demolition of one of the NOLA housing projects is approximately two months long and costs about $90,000.
to give you a ballpark figure, the air monitoring for the demolition of one of the NOLA housing projects is approximately two months long and costs about $90,000.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:57 am to Rouge
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remediation can be expensive when you take into account labor, removal, disposal and subsequent air monitoring.
to give you a ballpark figure, the air monitoring for the demolition of one of the NOLA housing projects is approximately two months long and costs about $90,000.
I realize that but TS is a state owned building, so the state is on the hook for the asbestos removal. You can't just ignore the asbestos and leave it there. It will have to come out eventually.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:58 am to Brown Mountain
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do yall think changing the "facade" would be a positive? or would it take away from the aura (sp) of the stadium?
I'm pretty sure that he was only referring to the rusted arse dorm windows. If you keep the windows (which I'm sure he plans on doing) but just fix them up, then no. All that would do is make the stadium look cleaner. Some reviews of Tiger Stadium that I have read say that the only negative is that the stadium looks old and rundown in some places. I'm sure that the old rusty, peeling paint windows is what they are referring to.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 8:59 am to TigerBait414
I wonder if the paint around those windows is lead based and will cost a pretty penny to rip them all out
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:00 am to supatigah
quote:if the areas containing ACM or PACM are not messed with, then it can absolutely stay there in perpetuity.
You can't just ignore the asbestos and leave it there. It will have to come out eventually.
the only time asbestos is back is when you mess with it.
<--------- LA Certified Asbestos Inspector, bitch!
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:00 am to TigerBait414
Yeah youre right! Just a thought. I wouldnt be opposed to a lil upgrade. be it dorm rooms or suites
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:01 am to Rouge
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<--------- LA Certified Asbestos Inspector, bitch!
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straight ownage!
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:01 am to supatigah
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Dormitories were first built into Tiger Stadium in the 1930s as a compromise project to provide student housing and expand the arena.
I lived in one of those rooms in 1956/57. It was on third level just behind the north elevator on the west side.
I shared the room with a buddy of mine from Leesville and some dude from New Orleans. We only saw him a few times all semester - and then he was usually sleeping off a drunk. He would come in sometime after we went to sleep and be in bed when we went to class. He didn't even last out the full semester.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:04 am to supatigah
quote:good chance
I wonder if the paint around those windows is lead based and will cost a pretty penny to rip them all out
we recommend testing for lead and asbesots for any demolition or renovation jobs on structures built prior to 1980.
we actually always recommend an asbestos inspection, but one is not needed if you have a clean inspection done prior to 1987 of if the architect will sign off saying that the materials used during construction are clean.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:05 am to WampusCat56
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Huey Long Not to provide student housing but a stadium for LSU football!
I also heard he dug the LSU lakes to prevent Southern from building there campus next to LSU. Any truth to this?!?
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:06 am to Brown Mountain
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straight ownage!
no shite!
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:06 am to Rouge
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if the areas containing ACM or PACM are not messed with, then it can absolutely stay there in perpetuity.
it is in a functioning athletic stadium, not an abandoned building somewhere
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the only time asbestos is back is when you mess with it.
well "mess with it", could mean any of a hundred different things and having work crews in there ripping out windows certainly qualifies as "messing with it"
<------------ certified in Hazardous Materials Handling and HazMat Response - but not an expert
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:08 am to WampusCat56
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Huey Long Not to provide student housing but a stadium for LSU football!
If I can remember right. Huey wanted to expand the stadium. The state told him they will only spend money to increase housing at LSU. So, Huey came up with the great idea to place housing inside the new expansion of Tiger Stadium so the state would pay for the new additions to Tiger Stadium.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:17 am to supatigah
quote:no doubt
having work crews in there ripping out windows certainly qualifies as "messing with it"
in those dorm rooms, you're probably more like to have non-friable materials though. By fiable, i mean that it can be crushed in your hands. Most of your friable stuff is going to be found in boiler rooms and surrounding piping, so mainly for insulation. You probably have tiles and mastic as your primary asbestos source in those dorm rooms.
and even though it's a functioning athletic stadium, it would be fine if you block off the area.
the funny part is that a lot of it will probably be replaced with silicates. though legal currently, it's pretty damn similar to asbestos when analyzed under a microscope.
Posted on 7/3/08 at 9:41 am to Rouge
Don't bring that educated talk in here. A place for facts the rant is not.
Regardless of what the plan is I hope they do something to tidy the "facad" up a bit. I think tailgating suites is a nice idea and would generate a new revenue stream but I hate yet another idea that separates fans by social structure and income level.
Regardless of what the plan is I hope they do something to tidy the "facad" up a bit. I think tailgating suites is a nice idea and would generate a new revenue stream but I hate yet another idea that separates fans by social structure and income level.
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