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The film work our analysts have already done & the game plans we’ve already installed
Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:53 am
Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:53 am
will be critical to the outcome Saturday. Not that they’re not always critical and the main thing will be which teams’ players actually go out there and make plays, but a lot of the work to put our players in positions to be successful and actually make those plays has probably already been done.
In his presser Monday, Kelly talked about how important it was do a great job of self scouting because of how good Kiffin is at picking up your defensive tendencies and having a plan to recognize and exploit them. So you have to be prepared to change your looks with different personnel, formations, etc…
And I’ve heard Hester breaking down their 69 running plays last week and they run of different types of runs out of the same looks.
It will be the same on the other side of the ball as well. Self-scouting and being able to recognize your tendencies and not just change them, but use them to your advantage is always important.
But I think it’s especially important this week just by the nature of Kiffin’s offense and the fact that we’be got 7 straight weeks on film and haven’t had a bye yet to really be able to change things up (though I think Denbrock did a really good job of this Saturday).
Anyway, I’ll be interested to see the chess match by the coordinators Saturday, the 1st few moves having already been made. Who’s gonna better anticipate the changes to the others’ game plans and create and install their own accordingly. And who, in-game, will be the 1st to see things and make adjustments. Like I said earlier, ultimately, the players have to go make the plays, but I think this game is particularly important to both coaching staffs and we should get their best intellectual efforts leading up to and throughout the game.
In his presser Monday, Kelly talked about how important it was do a great job of self scouting because of how good Kiffin is at picking up your defensive tendencies and having a plan to recognize and exploit them. So you have to be prepared to change your looks with different personnel, formations, etc…
And I’ve heard Hester breaking down their 69 running plays last week and they run of different types of runs out of the same looks.
It will be the same on the other side of the ball as well. Self-scouting and being able to recognize your tendencies and not just change them, but use them to your advantage is always important.
But I think it’s especially important this week just by the nature of Kiffin’s offense and the fact that we’be got 7 straight weeks on film and haven’t had a bye yet to really be able to change things up (though I think Denbrock did a really good job of this Saturday).
Anyway, I’ll be interested to see the chess match by the coordinators Saturday, the 1st few moves having already been made. Who’s gonna better anticipate the changes to the others’ game plans and create and install their own accordingly. And who, in-game, will be the 1st to see things and make adjustments. Like I said earlier, ultimately, the players have to go make the plays, but I think this game is particularly important to both coaching staffs and we should get their best intellectual efforts leading up to and throughout the game.
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 9:10 am
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Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:54 am to Hot Carl
Good news is one of our weaknesses has been not playing Perkins enough.
Hopefully we have that self scouted and fixed.
Hopefully we have that self scouted and fixed.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 8:58 am to Hot Carl
Ole Miss 48
Lsu 13
Lsu 13
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:07 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Ole Miss 48 Lsu 13
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:16 am to Tiger Ryno
Houston.. You have a problem
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:35 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Ole Miss 48
Lsu 13
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:35 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Ole Miss 48
Lsu 13
Ban bet the spread isn't that wide?
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:36 am to Big4SALTbro
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Good news is one of our weaknesses has been not playing Perkins enough.
I don’t think it’s that simple. Kiffin, as much as any coach and with so much film, can probably pick out a tendency of Perkins’ that he’s shown so far and use that to bait him into overcommitting and getting sucked up somewhere and getting the ball to where he’d be (running or passing). So we’d need to recognize that tendency of his too and say, “Harold, this is what you tend to do when you see this look—you commit just a little too early—and this is how they’re probably gonna beat you out today this formation by baiting you into doing…whatever.”
Having tendencies can actually really be to your advantage if you can recognize them in time and correctly predict how the other team will try to exploit them. Or does Ole Miss see a particular tendency of ours and try to exploit it, or do they expect we will see it too and adjust? Do they game plan around what we’ve been showing thinking we’ll keep doing it, or do they predict how we’ll adjust once we notice it ourselves and game plan towards that?
It’s like the scene in “The Princess Bride” with Wesley and the poisoned cup(s) and the bald dude who keeps trying to work out 4 or 5 moves ahead how he thinks Wesley would have thought and where he would have placed the poisoned cup and keeps changing his mind.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:37 am to Hot Carl
When you don’t hire your kids to be analysts, things turn out well.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 9:46 am to Blutarsky
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When you don’t hire your kids to be analysts, things turn out well.
Meh. We had a million analysts—the Orgeron kids weren’t doing anything important. Speaking of kids, I learned this week that 29-year-old Charlie Weiss Jr. is Ole Miss’s OC. No idea how I missed that.
But back to the analysts—who are our main guys responsible for the hard-core, late-night film work? Seems we’ve heard less about them this year—just their identities—than since we started having them. It seems like Kelly may have eliminated several of the positions, focusing more on quality than quantity? Am I remembering that right? Didn’t he trim a lot of analyst fat?
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:25 pm to Blutarsky
Pretty sure one of Kelly’s sons is an analyst on this staff.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:42 pm to Hot Carl
quote:That's as good an explanation as any as to why Perkins - or any other young player for that matter - doesn't get more PT.
I don’t think it’s that simple. Kiffin, as much as any coach and with so much film, can probably pick out a tendency of Perkins’ that he’s shown so far and use that to bait him into overcommitting and getting sucked up somewhere and getting the ball to where he’d be (running or passing)
And it's not so much about tendencies in general though that definitely comes into play more than a little bit when Kiffin is the bad guy making the calls.
It's about Coaching every kid up so they execute their assignments on every play and that includes what they might see to get them to abandon their responsibilities.
Perkins is so talented that there are times (prolly many) he could abandon his responsibilities and go make a successful play but even less competent Coaches than LK will eventually take advantage of him (or any other player) "leaving his post".
Being able to take the Coaching on to the field and executing properly is usually not something younger players can do with any consistency. It is insane that Geaux Tigers have 3 true freshman capable of playing/executing at such a high level.
Saturday will be a huge test for all three.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 12:44 pm to Hot Carl
quote:IIRC, yep.
It seems like Kelly may have eliminated several of the positions, focusing more on quality than quantity? Am I remembering that right? Didn’t he trim a lot of analyst fat?
Posted on 10/19/22 at 1:08 pm to Hot Carl
You better believe kiffen is goi g to find the weaknesses in this lsu defense.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:07 pm to Hot Carl
quote:This is a better post than most on here understand.
I don’t think it’s that simple. Kiffin, as much as any coach and with so much film, can probably pick out a tendency of Perkins’ that he’s shown so far and use that to bait him into overcommitting and getting sucked up somewhere and getting the ball to where he’d be (running or passing). So we’d need to recognize that tendency of his too and say, “Harold, this is what you tend to do when you see this look—you commit just a little too early—and this is how they’re probably gonna beat you out today this formation by baiting you into doing…whatever.”
Having tendencies can actually really be to your advantage if you can recognize them in time and correctly predict how the other team will try to exploit them. Or does Ole Miss see a particular tendency of ours and try to exploit it, or do they expect we will see it too and adjust? Do they game plan around what we’ve been showing thinking we’ll keep doing it, or do they predict how we’ll adjust once we notice it ourselves and game plan towards that? It’s like the scene in “The Princess Bride” with Wesley and the poisoned cup(s) and the bald dude who keeps trying to work out 4 or 5 moves ahead how he thinks Wesley would have thought and where he would have placed the poisoned cup and keeps changing his mind.
Posted on 10/19/22 at 2:10 pm to Hot Carl
If Daniels is going to continue having success throwing the ball, it will have to be over the top
They are not going to let him find receivers open because of 10-15 yard cushions That gap will be significantly closed
FL's secondary skills don't even qualify to be called skills or talent. They were sandlot level. No evidence of coaching.
I haven't seen anything that bad in the SEC since Pelini was fired
ETA- I saw very little of the game live due to Astros game I rewatched it last night for the first time
They are not going to let him find receivers open because of 10-15 yard cushions That gap will be significantly closed
FL's secondary skills don't even qualify to be called skills or talent. They were sandlot level. No evidence of coaching.
I haven't seen anything that bad in the SEC since Pelini was fired
ETA- I saw very little of the game live due to Astros game I rewatched it last night for the first time
This post was edited on 10/19/22 at 2:13 pm
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