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The Turnaround - Tennessee Should be the Standard

Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:35 pm
Heupel took over a Tennessee program that was an absolute train wreak. They were worse off than Ed left LSU and Heupel has them looking good in his 2nd yr. That is the standard in the age of the portal. This give him 3 or 4 years to rebuild b/c look at Saban talk is BS.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:36 pm to
Agreed.


We are thin but we aren’t that thin. Yesterday hurt
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 1:37 pm
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:36 pm to
Misread your post. At a minimum, yes
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 1:38 pm
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13710 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:37 pm to
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They were worse off than Ed left LSU


I don’t think people realize the train wreck Ed left. UT was in bad shape too but they are comparable. Toxic culture being the worst thing of all.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19813 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:38 pm to
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It took them 20 years to turn around. I hope it’s not the standard


Ummmm, that's the point. Tenn was run into the ground over a long period of time and Heupel appears to have reversed that damage in just his 2nd season. Tenn was way worse off than LSU.
Posted by tenderfoot tigah
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:38 pm to
Tennessee's offensive system is light years ahead of any scheme Kelly has ever run.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Heupel took over a Tennessee program that was an absolute train wreak. They were worse off than Ed left LSU and Heupel has them looking good in his 2nd yr. That is the standard in the age of the portal. This give him 3 or 4 years to rebuild b/c look at Saban talk is BS.

Tenn has a good team. Were they down to 39 scholarship kids in a bowl game? I don’t know, but they are better than we are now.

Next week is a defining game for them. Let’s see if they are there yet.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14197 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:39 pm to
I agree.

You don’t pay give a coach a $100 million contract and not make him produce for 3 years.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31160 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:39 pm to
I know. I misread and edited
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:41 pm to
Fully agree with you. Heupel is suppose to be a budget coach who isn't suppose to be successful yet he's outclassing high paid SEC coaches. Same with Stoops at Kentucky.

LSU's resources piss all over Tenn. The expectation for us next season should be what Tenn has assuming they can find a QB in the portal. There should be no shortage of good unhappy QBs for whatever reason in the portal. Unhappy because they play for a bad team and they're the best player. Who knows. At any rate, BK better have this team competing for the SEC next year not necessarily playoffs but making a hard run through the SEC. This team is not THAT untalented in certain position groups. It really only takes a few strategic and good transfer portal moves to transform this team. Mainly QB and get a few OL with possibly a TE. The offense should be completely night and day different. Possibly a RB to add too.

There's no excuse for a 10 million+ coach per year to find anything but a way to figure it out. Now is the time to strike hot too with the change to the rules temporarily. LSU can sign 50 players this class if they want with no consequences as long as they stay under the 85 man. He has no excuse to have a full rebuild extend past 1 year. This is not the old NCAA.
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 1:44 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30673 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 1:47 pm to
7-5 this year is acceptable, then? (I think it is)

Tennessee losses last year.

Pitt 41-34
Florida 38-14
Ole Miss 31-26
Alabama 52-24
Georgia 41-17



Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32013 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:01 pm to
quote:

Ummmm, that's the point. Tenn was run into the ground over a long period of time and Heupel appears to have reversed that damage in just his 2nd season. Tenn was way worse off than LSU.


Well heupal got his shite pushed in a couple times last year too.

I expected much better yesterday but wanted 2/3 from UT UF OM
This post was edited on 10/9/22 at 2:02 pm
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
10044 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:05 pm to
Yup, next year better be a 10 win season. The next we better be competing for it all
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23394 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Heupel took over a Tennessee program that was an absolute train wreak. They were worse off than Ed left LSU and Heupel has them looking good in his 2nd yr. That is the standard in the age of the portal. This give him 3 or 4 years to rebuild b/c look at Saban talk is BS.


bullshite. They were no worse off than we were roster-wise. That’s a myth. People thought it would be worse because the NCAA would hammer them over Pruitt, but that didn’t happen. And with the advent of the portal, it’s obviously a lot easier to turn over a roster.

The only reason that UT and OM hit ahead of schedule in year two of rebuilds is because of misevaluated QBs that others didn’t appreciate. Hooker was a passed over backup at VA Tech that Heupel backed into and didn’t even start initially and Corral was stupidly passed over by OM’s previous staff. Without them, both teams are just average to slightly above and on a more typical rebuild curve. A great QB can elevate a team that much.

We obviously tried to hit on a portal QB and struck out. But a guy like Hooker wasn’t out there for us this year. Williams and Ewers were never a possibility here and Dart hasn’t been amazing at OM either. Hitting on the right QB is the only way to skip forward in a rebuild like this.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:09 pm to
Well young Josh has a function offense. Dough boy Scotty brought us a expensive Dino who then hired his Dino pal to give us a Stone Age offense.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
4864 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Well young Josh has a function offense. Dough boy Scotty brought us a expensive Dino who then hired his Dino pal to give us a Stone Age offense.

And yet they got annihilated in like 4 games last year.
Posted by cfotiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
774 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:13 pm to
Nope, UT's recruiting under their former coach, Jeremy Pruitt, was very good. Heupel took over a program with talent. BK took over a program with 39 scholarship players.

It's not close to the same situation. How long did it take UT to get to this point? 20 years?

Did you look at the talent differential on the field yesterday? I am not a big BK fan, but he took over a disaster caused by Ed O. Let's see what he can do.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
2407 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:13 pm to
Brian Kelly better do what you say or else!!!
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:14 pm to
The point still stands though, with LSU's resources especially scouting they should have no problem finding what they want from the portal to see the results next season. Why we suck at finding QBs? I don't know why. We've always sucked at finding QBs and OL for some reason. We can figure every other position out but when it comes to scouting these we always whiff big time.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
2407 posts
Posted on 10/9/22 at 2:17 pm to
For one Kelly don’t have a Hendon Hooker of his roster like hueple did 2 Hueple wouldn’t be doing shite with out Hooker! Look at what McKenzie Milton before hooker! You fricking people are unreal and thing a shite program that was can be rebuilt in a few games some of you have unrealistic expectations for a team that was not going to be good from the beginning!!!
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