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BTC moving in tandem with markets
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:32 am
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:32 am
Just noticing this trend over the last few months
And as a crypto holder, this is a big worry
Theoretically bitcoin should trade and perform outside of market conditions…. Again theoretically
Interested to see in here what others have to say
Including the crypto haters… As they might be right if this trend continues in that BTC is simply I highly speculative investment With no real store of value
And as a crypto holder, this is a big worry
Theoretically bitcoin should trade and perform outside of market conditions…. Again theoretically
Interested to see in here what others have to say
Including the crypto haters… As they might be right if this trend continues in that BTC is simply I highly speculative investment With no real store of value
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:41 am to masoncj
BTC like all crypto is a speculative investment and has always traded that way. Cheap money is the market maker for crypto securities
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:45 am to UltimaParadox
Your commitment is pathological.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 10:49 am to masoncj
It decoupled a bit when the market was shitting itself from tariffs.
It will wax and wane with the market but still acts independently in certain seasons (parabolic run after halvening, cratering into crypto winter)
It will wax and wane with the market but still acts independently in certain seasons (parabolic run after halvening, cratering into crypto winter)
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:30 am to Hateradedrink
Hope your right
Gold isn’t the best comparison but obviously it done very well as a safe haven in uncertain market conditions
Just strange BTC/crypto coupled with the markets lately
Gold isn’t the best comparison but obviously it done very well as a safe haven in uncertain market conditions
Just strange BTC/crypto coupled with the markets lately
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:32 am to masoncj
BTC is up like 15% last 2 weeks. Which market is doing that?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 11:46 am to MoarKilometers
No markets are doing that but two weeks is very short timeframe
Did find this and found it interesting
LINK
Did find this and found it interesting
LINK
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:06 pm to masoncj
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Did find this and found it interesting
Just so folks don't have to leave the thread.
Investors of all flavors dislike instability, especially the unilateral variety foisted on us recently.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:31 pm to masoncj
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As they might be right if this trend continues in that BTC is simply I highly speculative investment With no real store of value
Not a hater but this is currently the truth
Not saying you can't make money but that's where we are right now
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:46 pm to masoncj
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Gold isn’t the best comparison but obviously it done very well as a safe haven in uncertain market conditions
One difference is that physical gold is a Tier 1 asset and Bitcoin isn't.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 12:52 pm to masoncj
You might have chosen the worst time to start this thread. 
Decoupling might be happening, it might not. Way too early to tell.
Here's an excerpt of a Tue pre-open that touches on it.
Decoupling might be happening, it might not. Way too early to tell.
Here's an excerpt of a Tue pre-open that touches on it.
quote:
Pulse Pre-Open | Tuesday 22nd April
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- Despite yesterday’s sharp equity selloff — the S&P 500 dropped 3% over the session — crypto held firm and instead moved in line with gold, trading more like a safe haven.
- This divergence is generating plenty of interest, with some traders speculating it could signal the start of a new trend.
- As I mentioned yesterday, I think the move is primarily being driven by USD weakness. If that’s the case, the decoupling from equities may not hold once the DXY stabilizes. That’s the key dynamic to watch this week and this hypothesis has not yet been tested.
- Put selling in the 27JUN25 #ETH contracts remained active, with similar flow seen in #BTC where the $80K strike was heavily overwritten.
- This was partially offset by large 30MAY25 collar structures, with traders selling the $98K calls to fund downside protection at the $88K strike.
- Over the past week, I flag notable screen flows in #SOL, #SHIB, and #ADA driven by fast money, while #BTC remains the preferred vehicle for stickier, institutional capital.
- This subset remains net sellers of #ETH and #SOL -- suggesting risk appetite is yet to spread out into wider areas of the market.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:21 pm to castorinho
I would love to eat crow on this …trust me!
Crypto isn’t a huge part of my NW but I would love for it to take off.
Crypto isn’t a huge part of my NW but I would love for it to take off.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:25 pm to masoncj
Name all the things with a negative correlation to the stock market.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 2:29 pm to castorinho
I’m convinced that altcoin trading is led by BTC whales who use alts as a proxy for leverage when they get a good feel for an upcoming btc move. Then retail trades it and lose their money.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:24 pm to beaverfever
its definitely whales with the selling pressure at these resistance levels Bitcoin today at 95K and XRP at 2.30 went to shite after that
Posted on 4/23/25 at 4:38 pm to Robcrzy
Upper resistance is still there, but we've at least flipped some previous resistances to support in the past few days. Holding steady above 92k.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:02 pm to masoncj
it has always reflected the market. what am I missing?
Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:05 pm to ninthward
That maybe but that is not the common thought
Bitcoin was/is supposed to be a separate store of value apart from markets performance like S&P
I tend to agree with you that it’s looking more and more like a equity instead
Bitcoin was/is supposed to be a separate store of value apart from markets performance like S&P
I tend to agree with you that it’s looking more and more like a equity instead
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:38 pm to masoncj
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That maybe but that is not the common thought Bitcoin was/is supposed to be a separate store of value apart from markets performance like S&P I tend to agree with you that it’s looking more and more like a equity instead
I haven’t been a BTC hater in a long time, and it’s currently 5% of my NW, but the store of value claim is a crock of shite until proven otherwise.
Gold as a store of value is also a crock of shite, fwiw.
Posted on 4/23/25 at 8:11 pm to slackster
Agreed that gold has no intrinsic value but man has chased it for millennia…something in our dna that draws us to it, it seems
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