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Building a new home - what's the cheapest, quickest way to access equity in existing home?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:13 am
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:13 am
We are currently building a new home on a lot we paid cash for. Our current house is paid for and we aren't using any construction financing for the new build. What is the quickest and cheapest way to access my current home's equity to help pay for the new house? Ideally, I need pull out about 40-50% of my current home's value. Do I just get the cheapest mortgage I can find?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:15 am to sneakytiger
Home Equity Line of Credit most likely if you plan to sell your current home after construction.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:28 am to sneakytiger
I’m going to have to be that guy…
How in the world do you not have a plan for this… you went as far as paying for a lot and saying you want to build the home but have no idea how to get the money to do it. Even if you don’t know, that’s what real estate attorneys, mortgage brokers, realtors, etc do for a living… you consult one of them. Don’t know how some of y’all make it in the real world.
How in the world do you not have a plan for this… you went as far as paying for a lot and saying you want to build the home but have no idea how to get the money to do it. Even if you don’t know, that’s what real estate attorneys, mortgage brokers, realtors, etc do for a living… you consult one of them. Don’t know how some of y’all make it in the real world.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:31 am to sneakytiger
HELOC. Will take a few weeks. You can probably find a bank offering a promo 6 month intro period for like 2-3%.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:33 am to sneakytiger
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access my current home's equity to help pay for the new house
Are you sure this is necessary?
It may be cheaper to borrow the money from a bank, and then when you sell your house, use that cash to pay down a big chunk.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 7:40 am to sneakytiger
Check out Figure.com. You didn't say didn't mention how much money you are looking for so they may not suit your needs. They are pretty quick.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:17 am to DaBeerz
I could pay for all of it cash if I needed to, but I'm trying to avoid that. I've talked to all the folks you mentioned... Just polling the board for other ideas.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:25 am to sneakytiger
HELOC is nice and quick and at least with my bank has no closing fees. HELOC interest rate is pretty high, though. You'd have to compare that to a mortgage with a lower interest rate but significant closing costs.
If you think the loan will be paid off quickly, HELOC might have the edge.
If you think the loan will be paid off quickly, HELOC might have the edge.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:37 am to sneakytiger
Rates aren’t dirt cheap anymore.
If that cash is true cash, probably best to use it. Or at least a a good chunk.
Combine some cash with a little HELOC if you don’t want to be ‘house poor.’
If that cash is true cash, probably best to use it. Or at least a a good chunk.
Combine some cash with a little HELOC if you don’t want to be ‘house poor.’
Posted on 6/19/24 at 8:54 am to DaBeerz
I’m going to have to be that guy…
How in the world do you not have a plan for this… you went as far as paying for a lot and saying you want to build the home but have no idea how to get the money to do it. Even if you don’t know, that’s what real estate attorneys, mortgage brokers, realtors, etc do for a living… you consult one of them. Don’t know how some of y’all make it in the real world
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You are bashing a guy that has current home paid for, owns his new lot, and is currently building a home without a loan. You might want to chill on your criticism. Is your financial situation better?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:02 am to sneakytiger
Heloc. Could also borrow against your 401. I think getting a construction loan is off the table as most banks don't want do construction loans on builds that have already started.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:13 am to sneakytiger
Thanks folks - I had no idea the heloc market was so big and accessible
Origination costs for construction loans were sickening and I also didn't want to deal with any more red tape than I have to. We will put a permanent mortgage in place on the new build once we've completed construction and sold the old house.
Origination costs for construction loans were sickening and I also didn't want to deal with any more red tape than I have to. We will put a permanent mortgage in place on the new build once we've completed construction and sold the old house.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 9:20 am to sneakytiger
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Origination costs for construction loans were sickening and I also didn't want to deal with any more red tape than I have to.
We did a full-scale renovation of an older home and went this route for the same reason. HELOC has higher interest rates, but our payback schedule vs the origination costs and hand holding made it the better option.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 12:59 pm to sneakytiger
If you have ample investments in a taxable brokerage, you could borrow against them using a pledged asset line or securities backed line of credit. You can negotiate rates based on size of your portfolio. I used IBKR's advertised rates as a negotiating point and got SOFR +1.55% much better than my broker's advertised rates. Offer/threaten to move portfolio if they cant compete.
Advantage your assets remain fully invested and you dont realize capital gains tax hit selling to generate cash.
Disadvantage the rate is variable based on SOFR (Currently 5.33% was .3% when I took the loan) + a fixed rate. So, I'm now paying 6.88%.) Also, you can only borrow something like 70% of portfolio value and if you fall below that you can get margin called. So, I made sure not to borrow anywhere close to that much.
Advantage your assets remain fully invested and you dont realize capital gains tax hit selling to generate cash.
Disadvantage the rate is variable based on SOFR (Currently 5.33% was .3% when I took the loan) + a fixed rate. So, I'm now paying 6.88%.) Also, you can only borrow something like 70% of portfolio value and if you fall below that you can get margin called. So, I made sure not to borrow anywhere close to that much.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:20 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
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TorchtheFlyingTiger
Thanks, that's why I posted this here. We bank with JPM and they offer this but we don't hold any taxable accounts with them... Mostly concentrated with VG but some at Fidelity and Schwab too. Either way HELOC might still be a winner since I can deduct the interest on my federal return without any phase out through 2025 at least. Do brokerages charge to hold the line of credit open if you don't use it?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:40 pm to sneakytiger
Dont know if they charge to hold it open (dont think so).
I would reach out to Fidelity and Schwab (I'm less optimistic VG would negotiate on rate.) Dont just call the customer service line call the rep assigned your account. Tell them you are interested in transferring/consolidating accounts w them if they can give you a competetive rate for an asset line of credit. While tou can't borrow against retirement assets they still may help w negotiating as they want more assets under their roof. IBKR rates here are a good reference point Interactive Brokers loan rates I was willing to pay small rate premium to stay w my broker instead of IBKR to speed transaction and because I read they might be less aggressive w margin calls and would give ample warning and time to address it if needed instead of just quickly selling your assets to cover.
I would reach out to Fidelity and Schwab (I'm less optimistic VG would negotiate on rate.) Dont just call the customer service line call the rep assigned your account. Tell them you are interested in transferring/consolidating accounts w them if they can give you a competetive rate for an asset line of credit. While tou can't borrow against retirement assets they still may help w negotiating as they want more assets under their roof. IBKR rates here are a good reference point Interactive Brokers loan rates I was willing to pay small rate premium to stay w my broker instead of IBKR to speed transaction and because I read they might be less aggressive w margin calls and would give ample warning and time to address it if needed instead of just quickly selling your assets to cover.
This post was edited on 6/19/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 6/19/24 at 1:50 pm to sneakytiger
This may be obvious but the interest deduction only benefits above what you'd get w standard deduction. Also, you still pay the interest you just dont pay tax on that portion of income.
Are you are already itemizing enough to exceed standard deduction?
Are you are already itemizing enough to exceed standard deduction?
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:19 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
We get close to itemizing with property taxes and charitable donations, but $30-40k of HELOC interest would push us into itemized, easily.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 2:25 pm to sneakytiger
In that case, might be worth paying a little higher rate HELOC since you can lock in fixed rate. You could always get an asset line in place just in case and use it if rates drop.
Posted on 6/19/24 at 3:19 pm to TorchtheFlyingTiger
I dont think HELOCs have a locked rate. At least my HELOC rate adjusts every quarter.
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