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Does Pre-K tuition count as child care expenses on taxes?

Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Modern
Fiddy Men
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 12:30 pm
Kid was in daycare for 4 years. Claimed the tuition on my taxes (helped a whole lot).

Now the kid is in Pre-K at a Catholic school that offers Pre-K.

Can the tuition be claimed like daycare was? Since Pre-K isn’t mandatory by the state?
Posted by gizmoflak
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 1:20 pm to
sure why not
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3572 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 2:24 pm to
It's a church school, at worst its a charitable donation. I put that stuff down as tuition for all 3 of my kids all the way through K.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39067 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:18 pm to
Depends if you are referring to Federal or Louisiana.

Federal - Pre-K counts as eligible spending for child care credit / Dependent Care FSA. Kindergarten doesn't (but before/after school care would count).

LA - The LA school deduction starts with kindergarten.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39067 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 3:19 pm to
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It's a church school, at worst its a charitable donatio


I hope you don't get audited.

There is no deduction for school tuition paid to a church school, because you are receiving value for the "donation".
Posted by ODP
Conroe
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:06 pm to
You can set up a dcfsa with your employer and pay pre-k expenses.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 6:07 pm to
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LSUFanHouston


If I take the standard deduction do I even need to bother listing child care expenses on my federal return?
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 6:09 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 6:20 pm to
Both parents need to be working or able to show why they couldn’t otherwise care for the child (such as a medical event).
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8118 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:46 pm to
Yes.

You can claim dependent care for tuition at K and older.

Pre K is not required by law. Hence its child care.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:12 am to
We made too much for it to help anyway, kids didn’t help us out at all for tax purposes
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 6:36 am to
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If I take the standard deduction do I even need to bother listing child care expenses on my federal return?

It’s a credit not a itemized deduction so yes
Posted by BestBanker
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 8:06 am to











Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:36 am to
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You can set up a dcfsa with your employer and pay pre-k expenses.


Not if it is at a catholic school as it’s considered tuition and not dependent care. I went through this when my son moved from pre-school to pre-K4. FSAs don’t allow payments to private schools, only day cares.

We were still far better off since pre-k4 tuition was far less than staying in day care.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:46 am to
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I went through this when my son moved from pre-school to pre-K4. FSAs don’t allow payments to private schools, only day cares.


My FSA has been reimbursing me for PreK “tuition” from my Catholic School.

Your issue might be related to reimbursement has to be in the same year you paid the tuition. I can’t claim FSADC for Jan-May 2020 schooling since I paid that in May 2019.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 9:51 am
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4852 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:47 am to
quote:

FSAs don’t allow payments to private schools, only day cares.


I don't think this is right. We've used it for private school pre-k and the FSA was set up through my wife's employer which was a private school.

Qualified Expenses
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16879 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 2:31 pm to
Your link doesn’t say anything about religious schools being allowed. It says it can be used for day care or nursery schools though. I would imagine it would have to do with how the school is licensed.

My FSA specially would not allow religious schools I can assure you.
Posted by JasonMason
Memphis
Member since Jun 2009
4852 posts
Posted on 12/18/19 at 4:52 pm to
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I would imagine it would have to do with how the school is licensed.



That's possible. Ours does allow for religious schools, but that doesn't mean yours does.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3428 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 7:56 am to
Yes. The school should send you a statement in January.
This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 7:57 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
39067 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:32 am to
quote:

My FSA specially would not allow religious schools I can assure you.


It sounds like the problem is with your FSA administration company, not the tax code and regs.

There is no legal distinction, for purposes of the credit / FSA eligibility, between a Pre-K run by a private company, or a religious organization, or a school that also has higher level grades.

The administrator might not understand what is happening here. Remember, in most parts of the country, pre-k students attend a nursery / primary school, not a catholic PreK - 7th grade school.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:12 am to
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My FSA specially would not allow religious schools I can assure you.


That’s not for the FSA Administrator to determine.

The issue likely comes from the FSA Admin unfamiliar with upfront tuition for the entire year of PreK. You can only request reimbursement for expenses paid in that calendar year and given that most PreK centers are month to month, its “confusing” when you’re submitting the same receipt for 5+ months.
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